#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[DeadlyAlbatross]

Thank you.

I don't think these problems are endemic to healers -- tanks and dps suffer from those, though nobody ever expects responsibility from a dps.

Having said that, I understand some of the gripes since I caught a glimpse of what AST and SMN (my former main) were when I purchased the game pre-ShB. And even then summoner worked very strangely indeed, and by ShB time it didn't feel like a proper summoner at all. It used to be about egi management, at least a little, and now it is about watching the pretty colors while doing kindergarten piano practice.

But then, I fail to name a class - bar maybe Pictomancer, Viper and Sage - that works differently. It's always rotation, and you move in those circles and you literally cannot make a meaningful choice anymore.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Thank you.

I don't think these problems are endemic to healers -- tanks and dps suffer from those, though nobody ever expects responsibility from a dps.

Having said that, I understand some of the gripes since I caught a glimpse of what AST and SMN (my former main) were when I purchased the game pre-ShB. And even then summoner worked very strangely indeed, and by ShB time it didn't feel like a proper summoner at all. It used to be about egi management, at least a little, and now it is about watching the pretty colors while doing kindergarten piano practice.

But then, I fail to name a class - bar maybe Pictomancer, Viper and Sage - that works differently. It's always rotation, and you move in those circles and you literally cannot make a meaningful choice anymore.

The base gameplay loop of doing your basic rotation is basically the same on every class... But other Jobs do have differences to each other when their CDs and mechanics get involved... Like Reaper you got listed, it has Blood Stalk and Enshroud. Those work very different from something like Monk's Perfect Balance and Blitz.

But for Healers, we get 1 attack, 1 DoT, and 1 or 2 attacks on CDs.

[Aravell]

The dev team has been stripping meaningful choice away for years. Because having meaningful choice means you can make mistakes, and mistakes breed conflict, and the dev team wants to remove all conflict from the game.

The choice you made actually mattered years ago when you didn't have 4 buttons that do the exact same thing. Choice no longer matters now when you can press any of your 4 AoE heals and still have one up whenever you need one later.

[Tint]

The dev team has been stripping meaningful choice away for years. Because having meaningful choice means you can make mistakes, and mistakes breed conflict, and the dev team wants to remove all conflict from the game.

The choice you made actually mattered years ago

Exactly. The choice that mattered was to complain about 0 dps healers, ice mages, melees pressing their combos in random order and basically about everything a tank did.

These changes which dumbed down the game were not made because bad players complained the game was too hard - they were made because "good" players complained about bad players were not good enough.

[Grann-Goro]

Exactly. The choice that mattered was to complain about 0 dps healers, ice mages, melees pressing their combos in random order and basically about everything a tank did.

These changes which dumbed down the game were not made because bad players complained the game was too hard - they were made because "good" players complained about bad players were not good enough.

Yup.

That's why a lot of things are boring - in gaming and beyond - : "always hide the differences between people (especially differences in capability), or one way or another you will create problems."

After years of teaching, I've lost faith to think otherwise...

[Jojoya]

Yup.

That's why a lot of things are boring - in gaming and beyond - : "always hide the differences between people (especially differences in capability), or one way or another you will create problems."

After years of teaching, I've lost faith to think otherwise...

The game is being made to generate profit for a for-profit corporation. It's not being made as a character (as in personal qualities) building exercise.

Ultimately, they're going to make what they feel are the best choices to generate profit. If that means making more of the content accessible to attract and retain more customers, that's what they're going to do.

What they have to figure out is just how far they can go before the veteran players lost beyond normal attrition starts to exceed the new customers attracted and retain. We can't see those numbers as players. We only guess based on what we see happening in our circle of game friends and acquaintances.

That's why I like to stress that players should be smart consumers. If the product/service is no longer serving its purpose for you, don't buy it. It has no loyalty to you even if you consider yourself loyal to it.

[Isala]

Yup.

That's why a lot of things are boring - in gaming and beyond - : "always hide the differences between people (especially differences in capability), or one way or another you will create problems."

After years of teaching, I've lost faith to think otherwise...

My sister was a teacher. The stories she'd tell me about how much her class suffered in having to cater to the absolute worst students, that wouldn't try, and didn't care, were appalling. The amount of times she'd get screamed at by entitled parents, furious because their precious angel got the grades they deserved were too damned high, and her administration wouldn't do anything to stop it. Meanwhile, the truly gifted students were ignored, because you can't have someone excel TOO much. Not when Derps Mclazy won't bother to pay attention for even a single day in his life.

[HealerGuy]

The devs listening to threads like this are what ruined WoW.

[Aword3213]

The devs listening to threads like this are what ruined WoW.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but WoW is still the most popular MMO on the market. It's more successful than FFXIV

Even Diablo IV has higher active player count than FFXIV.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but WoW is still the most popular MMO on the market. It's more successful than FFXIV

Even Diablo IV has higher active player count than FFXIV.

The thing is though we don't exactly know the player numbers for FF XIV, as they're split between platforms. The only people who would know exactly how many people are playing are Square-Enix but they haven't told us.