#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Basteala]

Yeah, I agree. But if a lot of Healers are struggling and the "overall quality of healers" is sinking due to the strike I don't see SE adding more stuff for the healers to do since they are already struggling with the little they already have to do, sadly.

Oh this is absolutely true, and it's a point not enough people are mentioning. The quality of healing has certainly dropped in DT.

I will say the heal checks have gotten more intense too at Normal level--maybe not to healer strike satisfactory levels, but it's there, and noticeable with like 80% of competent healers being gone.

But yeah if they don't want more DPS abilities--I'm wondering if full control/support is something that could be on the table. Making interrupts more relevant for example, and then moving that from tanks to healers, with the option of RDPS helping.

Other things, too, mind, but I'm wondering if that direction would appeal more than DPS options that a lot of healers are against. I know they want to heal but when a fight's on farm that's eventually not going to matter as much, and I'm wondering if going full on Blue Deck (in MTG terms) is the answer here.

If I remember correctly, CNJ (and WHM) had a trait that allowed Raise to be used in combat, which PLD wouldn't have had back when they were able to grab Raise as a cross-class skill...

Sure. My point was more that PLD having something like that now would actually give them some measure of unique utility to bring since there really isn't much PLD does that would make any serious raid group take them over the alternatives.

[sharknado]

And if that's the case one can say good bye to any hopes of a more fleshed out / engaging toolkit.

Maybe we get tank-like survivability then? or all DPS/Tank jobs get a battle rez instead...

[Basteala]

Maybe we get tank-like survivability then? or all DPS/Tank jobs get a battle rez instead...

Real talk but PLD could actually use the rez. It's been #strictlyworseWAR for the past 4 years, now.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Real talk but PLD could actually use the rez. It's been #strictlyworseWAR for the past 4 years, now.

If I remember correctly, CNJ (and WHM) had a trait that allowed Raise to be used in combat, which PLD wouldn't have had back when they were able to grab Raise as a cross-class skill...

[CaptainLagbeard]

Or SE will see the decrease of the overall quality of healers as a sign that the Healer job needs to be even more simplified, as people are still struggling with getting a hang on how to play the job.
Probably gonna look at it as, "It's not the "top players" of the job that should be able to play it in a good manner."
And if that's the case one can say good bye to any hopes of a more fleshed out / engaging toolkit.
I doubt that SE would "buff up" the healers options of skills so that the "majority" who's already struggling playing Healers would have an even harder time to cope with it.
They'd most likely just make it easier and take away more instead.

Yea I could see them looking at low skill healers struggling, and to compensate buff Tanks and DPS's survivability instead of trying to bring skilled Healers back to the role.

[CaptainLagbeard]

I didn't mind the Role quests as a silly set of side quests not tied to any major plotpoint or anything... But yea, they didn't exactly make any role actually do their role specifically. And every one of them had you essentially just playing generic DPS.

[Edweirdo]

Just lvling astro ,and I hate that they turned 2 cards into another 2 random barriers and heal buffs ,There was one healer job that had something extra going on , giving out them dps buffs, and keeping busy, now that's gone too , more heals and barriers bc 90% of my skills wasn't enough .
I'm starting to experience and see why healers are getting sick and tired , and why there's always a lack of healers in endgame rn .
This is bad, ppl complained about healer homogenization and in response they homogenized even the few unique features that some jobs had.

[Striker44]

Just lvling astro ,and I hate that they turned 2 cards into another 2 random barriers and heal buffs ,There was one healer job that had something extra going on , giving out them dps buffs, and keeping busy, now that's gone too , more heals and barriers bc 90% of my skills wasn't enough .
I'm starting to experience and see why healers are getting sick and tired , and why there's always a lack of healers in endgame rn .
This is bad, ppl complained about healer homogenization and in response they homogenized even the few unique features that some jobs had.

Yeah, this is one spot where I was disappointed, too. Had finally gotten into AST at the end of EW and liked that card system; not a fan of the new one and AST has gone on the back burner again. Still loving SCH just as much, though.

As a tank I am starting to have 5-15 min wait times for stuff.

Random anecdotes or anomalies don't mean much. It'll always waffle back and forth between tanks and healers. So far in DT, I have never had a tank queue go anything more than a few minutes, even when I'm queuing for very specific odd content for WT. And sometimes it's the healer queue that does that instead. For example, I ran my four Arcadion raids yesterday...tried first as healer and had a queue that didn't pop within a couple minutes...switched to tank...all 4 wings insta-popped each time I queued as tank.

Things will just go as they've always gone, especially with an expansion featuring both new classes as DPS. The role most needed will just keep meandering back and forth between tanks and healers as it always has.

Time for a fresh batch of popcorn. Another no healer clear.

*Shrugs shoulders* Not even worth getting popcorn for. Show me random groups of "nobodies" doing this on the regular and I'll bring the butter.

[EusisLandale]

Time for a fresh batch of popcorn. Another no healer clear.
https://x.com/jooooonside/status/1817629545379348577

[Supersnow845]

Time for a fresh batch of popcorn. Another no healer clear.
https://x.com/jooooonside/status/1817629545379348577

I can feel the goal posts moving as we speak