#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Supersnow845]

The thing is DF healers aren’t any worse than any other role it’s just that there is 2 lynchpin roles in a party and only one lynchpin role has an inbuilt 80% damage reduction

Healers are seen as pathetic for failure, tanks aren’t allowed to fail

[Saraide]

The adds in the first boss of that dungeon dont even deal real damage. You have to moth into the exaflares to die as non-tank. It's an excellent encouragement to not get hit by mechanics and it's one of the better designed bosses in dungeons in general but the damage output isnt high.

[gllt]

If they added dps 123 for healer then theyde just be green dps. Instead we should be aiming to make healing better so that theyre not just standing around 11111 spamming. If u just make them a green dps savage and ex could wind up being to hard. Not to mention the casual 99% will quit the role

I think you misunderstood so I'll clarify real quick if you don't mind

In both my previous posts I suggested making the 11111 gameplay into 11111 gameplay (but it looks different) not actual 123 gameplay

Same damage, one button over and over, different animations
I think this is boring but still less boring than it currently is

And even though I'd like something more interesting than that, I'm not asking for healers to get a 123 on 3 separate DPS buttons, I'm asking for more interesting interactions between the current buttons that don't require people in casual content to do anything different than they already doing, so again, I'm asking to keep 11111 and just make it more interesting. Maybe my DOT procs an occasional instant broil or something. Not that I need more movement, but I'm sure you can agree that a change like that is not going to make casuals quit the role or make harder content even harder.

If you want more healing checks to make the role interesting, I'm all for it, especially in a game where Tanking is also boring (let's go Tank Strike) and face rolly to the point of absurdity, a lot of healers want to heal more and I think that's great, a lot of healers also want something more interesting than 11111 and people seem to think that can only mean turning them into a full DPS as we traditionally think of them and I disagree, you're not thinking creatively enough, but even if someone does want that, why can't one of the healers be exactly that. GNB is supposed to be that for Tanks. And they also had to get their second combo turned into 1 button, and it was a good change. It's still fun to use. You can balance that archetype just fine.

I'm not asking for anything that makes the job harder!
I don't want to make the job harder!

I'm asking for things that make it more interesting in content as low as haukke manor or temple of qarn for example, meaning it would really help it it was part of the core job design and rotation early on!

Freecure is a joke on WHM but if it was on Cure 2 I think it would be a joke people smiled about instead of groaning at. It sucks because it's on Cure 1. It would still suck on Cure 2 because it barely ever procs but then it would

1) be interesting and make me smile when it procs
2) no longer be a trap that tricks people into using Cure 1 when they aren't having MP issues (remember managing MP)

At least Physick on Scholar has actual uses even though the average person is convinced that it's Adlo or bust

[sindriiisgaming]

The thing is DF healers aren’t any worse than any other role it’s just that there is 2 lynchpin roles in a party and only one lynchpin role has an inbuilt 80% damage reduction

Healers are seen as pathetic for failure, tanks aren’t allowed to fail

Then why not demand a nerf on tanks instead of a change on healer. We all know if it wasn't for war this wouldn't even be a problem

[sindriiisgaming]

Also my bf dies in tender Valley a lot. As a healer. And when he dies its basically run over bevause of all the other stuff. I think this also happened in alexandria to bos 1. The only dng I was really able to cary on war was vanguard first and 3rd boss

[Supersnow845]

Then why not demand a nerf on tanks instead of a change on healer. We all know if it wasn't for war this wouldn't even be a problem

It’s like the second point on the first post

Correction it’s literally the first point

Healers aren’t bad, they just look bad compared to a role that’s basically playing with cheat codes on

[Saraide]

Then why not demand a nerf on tanks instead of a change on healer. We all know if it wasn't for war this wouldn't even be a problem

Why are you in here arguing when you have never read the summerized complaints in the opening post?

[Kozmakis]

They're not going to get rid of tank solo sustain, it's there so tanks can carry even if the healer dies.

They're already giving dps healing/shield abilities to do something similiar.

I am curious, as I haven't played the new ex dungeons yet: if the tank dies, for whatever reason, can one of the other party members tank without wiping?

[sindriiisgaming]

It’s like the second point on the first post

Correction it’s literally the first point

Healers aren’t bad, they just look bad compared to a role that’s basically playing with cheat codes on

Yea but the rest of the points and of the people shouting and yelling are because healers 11111 spam. So I think the lack of real conclusively is why the devs will not change anything. When instead just saying "nerf tank healing" would be easier for 99% of people to get behind and wouldn't come off elietist. Where as "healers are ez mode" yea u can see how it comes off

[sindriiisgaming]

Why are you in here arguing when you have never read the summerized complaints in the opening post?

What is it they say about assume again?
It makes a something something of something something. Yea. Ur assuming. I did read them and I've been reading this thread for a while. And I'm noticing the complains aren't organised. Half of you want 1 thing half want the other. Because of this inconsistency the devs are unlikely to listen to either