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  1. #6411
    Player
    Reinha's Avatar
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    Finland
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LyraShu View Post
    Friends in VC;

    "Healer's strike is dumb, why did they choose THIS expansion to strike?"
    "What are they even going on about? Seriously they are nothing but a bunch of casuals complaining"
    "Well, a few of them do harder content, but I swear this is people just complaining and not knowing why"

    Me;

    "So, I know that some people are joining because the 1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1 spam is boring and puts people to sleep. They are just wanting it to be interesting"

    Them:

    "Y'know what? That's kinda fair. I don't play healer's because of the spam"


    It was just funny. Current content does look to be really fun and I actually been looking at it with starry eyes kinda wanting to heal for it. . .but then I just remember the spam and most of my drive goes away.
    Hahah that was exactly the kind of conversation I saw in /shout when questing through the 4th zone.

    And I don't even feel starry eyed anymore because I've been disappointed every time. It's the same every expansion. Casuals who come back after a two year break are a little overwhelmed and tell everyone how busy and fun healing is, until the first crafted gear is released and everyone is overgeared for normal level capped content for the next two years. I'm not going to play a role that is moderately fun for a few weeks every two years, when there are roles that are fun all of the time. Questing, dungeons, raids, trials, synced or capped, geared or undergeared, in good and bad parties; other roles are more fun than healers regardless of the time and place because their rotations are designed to be that way.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 07-07-2024 at 12:01 AM.

  2. #6412
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    Kewitt's Avatar
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    Ewitt Rainbow
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    I guess it over.
    I queued as a healer for a duty roulette today and I was the role in queue 26
    (0)
    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

  3. #6413
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Character
    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I quiet quit healing years ago. I still keep WHM (at least) at max level to play with friends should they require something, but I never use roulettes to get there and I don't play in group content with it anymore. It's always one of two situations - some terribly undergeared and overconfident moron pulling wall to wall and expecting me to compensate for his inability to manage cooldowns, or a warrior and I twiddle my thumbs while pressing the 'spin' button.

    Not at all engaging. Don't blame folks for being sick of this shit.
    (13)

  4. #6414
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    MisterNublet's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Autechre Voidmoon
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    I guess it over.
    I queued as a healer for a duty roulette today and I was the role in queue 26
    Alliance Raid I assume?

    Not really a great queue for healers since it requires one less tank and one extra dps, and often times has dps as AIN because it requires extra dps. Dungeons, Trials, Normal Raid (duty finder) are better representatives since they have the standardized group composition.
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  5. #6415
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    E4EO's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Samuel Wolcott
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Though I support the strike, I wasn't going to post in this thread as I feel everything has already been said, and I've been doing my part in game by only leveling SGE through PvP. But I had a first hand encounter with the terrible job and boss design first hand and I just need to share.

    I just did Vanaspati as my MCH, we had a SCH, RPR, and WAR.

    Get to the final boss, he does *that* mechanic, the one where he flies in the air and drops the meteors, the RPR and SCH die, I kms out of instinct. Boss was a little over 50%

    This
    Freaking
    WAR

    Manages to solo kill this synced dungeon boss from half HP without breaking a sweat. Anytime he got low he heals everything back no problem. I don't have a problem with the dude himself, just the job.

    I can think of no other piece of media where the berserker warrior type is as good of a healer compared to the actual healers. I get it's a synced dungeon boss, but the fact it's possible in a relevant piece of content is absolute insanity, the healer role should be required in 90% of cases, it makes the job redundant, useless, nothing but a means to let the other jobs queue into a dungeon.

    Having bosses do that little damage and tanks healing that much is ridiculous in a MMORPG and would be laughed at by competent game designers. It's better in DT cause it's close to min ilvl, but eventually, it'll devolve into the same stuff where healers are optional.

    For God's sake SE, if you're gonna make healers not need to heal, give them some robust DPS tools.
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  6. #6416
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    MAD_ARCHITECT's Avatar
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    HELL
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    Character
    Doctor Maurer
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Ah, it's not just synced content. I came here to post this:

    I just finished one of the two extra level 100 dungeons you need to unlock to activate Expert Roulette in a healing role. Duty Roulette, so random party members, and tank was a warrior. It was my first time in the dungeon and I died on the final boss at around 70% to a mechanic I didn't recognize. Rather than wipe the fight, the two dps and the tank continued to fight the boss. You can guess where I'm going with this.

    Multiple times, the DPS hp dropped very low. The warrior was able to heal them back up to full at least twice, and they successfully downed the boss with all three players' HP almost maxed out. The two dps were a viper and a pictomancer, two classes on the weaker side of self sustain if I understand correctly.

    Rest assured that, even at level 100 in the Expert dungeons 1 week into expansion launch, you contribute nothing of value to a run in the duty finder, as it has been since 2019.
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  7. #6417
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    NarhiFaunlha's Avatar
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    Varha Linotha
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    And yet- how much longer did that take compared to if you were still alive.
    (1)

  8. #6418
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    MAD_ARCHITECT's Avatar
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    HELL
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    Doctor Maurer
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    The run was still done in under 15 minutes, so it can't have been a big difference. It was also my first time doing the dungeon, so I have no idea what my average time might otherwise be. If it was just a solo WAR I'm sure it would have taken ages and been very annoying for everyone, but the WAR was also keeping the DPS alive.
    (13)

  9. #6419
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    Loggos's Avatar
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    Character
    Kaeya Alberich
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    What are eveybody's thoughts on the new extreme trials? I have watched some Valigarmanda guides and from the descriptions it sounded like a fair amount of healing but I'm not sure if that's an accurate perception.
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  10. #6420
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 91
    I had that happen in a leveling dungeon as well, 97 I think. Healer died at 70% ish, rest of the group just finished it. I don’t think the tank was a WAR either but I might be misremembering that.
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