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  1. #6211
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    notice it's mostly the newer players complaining....yet it's mostly the newer players letting me as a tank main die
    As a tank main I am gonna say that you have a .... skill issue.

    I never have that issue so sounds like you are lacking.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  2. #6212
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    GrimGale's Avatar
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    I keep reading that we healers demanded our kits simplified and this "one button spam" is actually our fault. That we asked for this.

    Please someone point me to a thread or something about a loud outspoken movement to have 1 nuke and 1 DoT be our majority of casts for most of our gameplay.

    Someone also point me at people asking for Kaiten to be removed, BLM non-standard removed, SMN being reduced to 2 buttons and MNK's rotation being 1,2,3 forever.
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  3. #6213
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    You can ask for things to change again even if you asked for them to change before. This is not a genie in a bottle with a limited amount of wishes. The playerbase and game surrounding those changes have also changed. Maybe those changes don't make sense anymore. How is that hard to grasp? What are you afraid of, dev time being stolen from changes you want? Why can't we put you on trial for how justified or not the things you want from the game are? Why do we need to conform to your success conditions because the word strike was used? Why do I have to care if you like my protest or not? Why do I have to be accountable for other people and their goals in this movement? Whyyyy am I supposed to care about anything you have to say?
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    it/its - 14 accessibility is bad, ease of access is not accessibility, jobs are boring. Transphobia ruins real attempts at criticism and it's whack.

  4. #6214
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    Sani2341's Avatar
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    Yo-tsu Amilar
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    I keep reading that we healers demanded our kits simplified and this "one button spam" is actually our fault. That we asked for this.

    Please someone point me to a thread or something about a loud outspoken movement to have 1 nuke and 1 DoT be our majority of casts for most of our gameplay.

    Someone also point me at people asking for Kaiten to be removed, BLM non-standard removed, SMN being reduced to 2 buttons and MNK's rotation being 1,2,3 forever.
    There isn't really.

    There's old old threads about are/hw cleric stance, but nothing asking for DOT removal etc.

    In fact opposite is true. Even in SB AST Players asked for an AoE DOT for themselves as SCH and WHM had them at that time.

    Think it's around page 80ish in the Healer Forum. I Checked it a while back bc I wondered just that.
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    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

  5. #6215
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    I keep reading that we healers demanded our kits simplified and this "one button spam" is actually our fault. That we asked for this.

    Please someone point me to a thread or something about a loud outspoken movement to have 1 nuke and 1 DoT be our majority of casts for most of our gameplay.

    Someone also point me at people asking for Kaiten to be removed, BLM non-standard removed, SMN being reduced to 2 buttons and MNK's rotation being 1,2,3 forever.
    None exist beyond nuances of cleric stance, and maybe come complaints about AST rng pre STB.

    IIRC, most of the commentary was the occasion where a cohealer would prioritize dps (or a healer would prioritize dps in 4-man content) leading to folks dying or content being more difficult than need be, causing people to complain. I believe the response was to, lower the amount of button bloat and redirect some of the damage into their dot(making it longer) and Glare equivalent(higher potency) so that healers would have less of a need to focus on dps, and more on healing or in general, give them less to juggle so that they could exclusively focus on keeping hp up.
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  6. #6216
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    Ryaduera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    notice it's mostly the newer players complaining....yet it's mostly the newer players letting me as a tank main die
    As a tank main... How are you dying? Even as DRK if you do it right, especially with the new Shadowed Vigil, you can stay alive for an entire pull without a healer.

    If you're dying, you're doing it intentionally. Blaming the healers for it won't fix bad gameplay.
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    Filled to the brim with salt, vinegar, and unpopular opinions.

    Nobody told me Fantasias were addictive, now I have to go to rehab.

  7. #6217
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    Anatha's Avatar
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    Ana Nuann
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    No, I want healers to have more of a chance to HEAL, they are HEALERS.
    Maybe you should heal what's been added then. That's all you have time to do.
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  8. #6218
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Local_Custard View Post
    Yesterday the party tank (paladin) solo'd a dungeon boss because the healer died. It was a mid-expansion dawntrail dungeon. Most tanks are still too strong (I think DRK is more where the tank sustain should be). I asked the Paladin to wipe so that we could beat the boss together but they refused. Sometimes it really feels like this game was made for tanks to solo and everyone else doesn't matter.
    Looks like a gigantic but hole. I'd have taken the penalty without hesitation. Or kick him.
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  9. #6219
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    Ryaduera Tengille
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    Leviathan
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    In case we needed more proof that healers are optional

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYNFQkbfyg4
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    Filled to the brim with salt, vinegar, and unpopular opinions.

    Nobody told me Fantasias were addictive, now I have to go to rehab.

  10. #6220
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaduera View Post
    As a tank main... How are you dying? Even as DRK if you do it right, especially with the new Shadowed Vigil, you can stay alive for an entire pull without a healer.

    If you're dying, you're doing it intentionally. Blaming the healers for it won't fix bad gameplay.
    I don't get how he is dying and blaming the healer. I have to TRY to die on trash pulls lol.
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