#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Bobby66]

You seem to be arguing from the position that SE has the data and so they cannot make the wrong decision.

We have seen that they have made a lot of decisions that were received very badly before, so just because they have the data still doesn't automatically mean they make the correct (or even the best) decisions.

The only difference here is that you have faith in SE, we don't.

That is not my argument, my argument is SE will use their own data as a bases to make changes, we can cry and whine all we want but if their data supports their view they will make adjustments around that. Hey make your posts state your concerns, I hope healers get what they want, but I am not holding my breath.

As stated I hate current smn, I want old smn back but no amount of crying or posting feedback will bring back old smn. Screaming into a void is fun and all, but yeah.

Edit: Correct choice is subjective, clearly they have a different view as to what is correct or right with game design.

[GartredZW]

That is not my argument, my argument is SE will use their own data as a bases to make changes, we can cry and whine all we want but if their data supports their view they will make adjustments around that. Hey make your posts state your concerns, I hope healers get what they want, but I am not holding my breath.

As stated I hate current smn, I want old smn back but no amount of crying or posting feedback will bring back old smn. Screaming into a void is fun and all, but yeah.

Edit: Correct choice is subjective, clearly they have a different view as to what is correct or right with game design.

They also take player feedback into account in their data. (or at least, I hope they do). So a 700 page forum thread with a ton of people expressing distaste with the healer role should probably turn some heads.

[Supersnow845]

Kaiten is another example, literally nobody actually asked for Kaiten to be removed. Some people now retroactively say “eh it was just bloat” but nobody was actively going to square and saying “please delete Kaiten it’s the worst part of SAM’s kit”

They have also acknowledged they made a lot of mistakes with EW’s patch design

[Bobby66]

Kaiten is another example, literally nobody actually asked for Kaiten to be removed. Some people now retroactively say “eh it was just bloat” but nobody was actively going to square and saying “please delete Kaiten it’s the worst part of SAM’s kit”

They have also acknowledged they made a lot of mistakes with EW’s patch design

I have stated SE is not perfect, maybe I am just more jaded cause SE killed the playstyle and job I loved which was smn. I hope healer strike can prove me wrong.

[ForsakenRoe]

GZ all on 7000 posts, now for another 7000

It really does feel (and to me, during EW too) that the shoe had swapped feet, that WOW was the underdog that was now fighting to regain the trust of its playerbase after having taken them for granted (with Dragonflight and now The War Within), and SE has become the 'king' that believes it is too large to fail

[Aravell]

GZ all on 7000 posts, now for another 7000

It really does feel (and to me, during EW too) that the shoe had swapped feet, that WOW was the underdog that was now fighting to regain the trust of its playerbase after having taken them for granted (with Dragonflight and now The War Within), and SE has become the 'king' that believes it is too large to fail

Now we just need Yoshi P to have a "You think you do, but you don't" moment to complete the circle.

[ForsakenRoe]

Now we just need Yoshi P to have a "You think you do, but you don't" moment to complete the circle.

Isn't that what 'If you want challenging gameplay as healer, give ultimate a try!' was? Or how about 'please give healers a try' (in response to Abyssos causing a shortage)? Or what about the one that went something like 'Our data showed SCH was forcing WHM to do all the healing' (the charts from the time showed the two to be equal on HPS, and with the 'Mitigation = HPS' change to FFlogs, SCH would dominate in said charts)

YoshiP's had plenty of 'moments', I'd say

[Havenchild]

Isn't that what 'If you want challenging gameplay as healer, give ultimate a try!' was? Or how about 'please give healers a try' (in response to Abyssos causing a shortage)? Or what about the one that went something like 'Our data showed SCH was forcing WHM to do all the healing' (the charts from the time showed the two to be equal on HPS, and with the 'Mitigation = HPS' change to FFlogs, SCH would dominate in said charts)

YoshiP's had plenty of 'moments', I'd say

And yet, this thread exists. People clearly don't know how to read between the lines. They want Healers to remain as is and not have to devote by default more resources towards dps options. People just have a really hard time accepting something that hasn't and likely won't change for years to come. At this point, whoever still plays healer, liked it for what it is. If you don't like it, play a caster instead. It's not that hard to accept the devs stance at this point.

[PercibelTheren]

And yet, this thread exists. People clearly don't know how to read between the lines. They want Healers to remain as is and not have to devote by default more resources towards dps options. People just have a really hard time accepting something that hasn't and likely won't change for years to come. At this point, whoever still plays healer, liked it for what it is. If you don't like it, play a caster instead. It's not that hard to accept the devs stance at this point.

Oh look, another oracle who can apparently predict the future and also read the devs' minds. This "reading between the lines" is completely made up because they have never made any "stance" clear. Hell, they have recently openly admitted that they went too far with job simplification. Unless they come out and say something, all we have is speculation, so please stop treating said speculation as fact just because it fits with your opinion.

That and their minds clearly change. Remember how they told us they would never release 2 DPS in an expansion again? Yeah, about that...

[TheDustyOne]

That and their minds clearly change. Remember how they told us they would never release 2 DPS in an expansion again? Yeah, about that...

Didn't they also at one point say that Paladins would never block magic attacks? Only to change that not long into Stormbloods release? Female Viera and Male Hrothgar were supposed to be the last races because both were wanted by the devs and playerbase, but they only had resources for 1 race, so they settled on 2 half-baked races, they clearly changed their mind to release the opposite sexes over the expansions. Every rework made is the devs changing their minds, every QoL change they once said was impossible is the devs changing their minds, it's fully possible for Square to change their minds on healer designs, they just need to have an open mind and some creativity to act on it.