#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Kozmakis]

I get it though, it's just the toxic raiders complaining like they always do about everything. That's all I see here.
Ruin the game for everyone just so they can fine tune it to high end content (which any developer worth their salt would never do).

I am sorry to say that, but you are sorely mistaken here. It is literally said in the very first post of this thread (and several other times in the past almost 700 pages) that one of the issues is that healers are just bland/boring in casual content. And I can confirm that, as a casual player who barely finished anything harder than Expert Dungeons in the past 3 expansions (I still haven't had the time to finish the 2 "optional" i.e. non-MSQ Dawntrail Expert Dungeons yet, as I would level up my DPS instead after finishing the MSQ)

I understand why you would assume this to be true - in most cases, the highly engaged players who spend more time in the game are the ones playing the most difficult content. They also are the people, who are most likely to write in the forums, they are way more invested in the game than casuals like me, who play for at most a few hours a week. I can assure you that this is not just "toxic raiders" who support this.

[Aword3213]

Cure II : 700 potency single target healing(discount EW passive)

Tetra: 700 potency single target healing

Solace : 700 potency single target healing(discount EW passive

Complaint: hotbar problem

Suggestion: condense various spells for more space

Response: You elitists are just whining. Your ideas should go straight to trash can. Also,why are you guys are toxic to little me?(forget about calling people A-hole) You just want my favorite WHM to be removed from the game!!! How could you?(sob

[Silver-Strider]

So why are you so mad? You are being disingenuous. You are called out. You also fit the criteria of the slur you spewed out. That's just a fact of life.




No, I'm not. According to your ally Spreadsheet the Arbitor, I'm a pathetic casual.

Try again



I don't see your intent on conversation. All I see is your vile attempts at nonsensical accusation.

Honestly, after the A-Hole comments, I'm not sure why anyone would continue to engage this person rather than block them and move on with their lives. They're not arguing in good faith and just dismissing anyone that has actually made suggestions per his request. There's nothing to discuss with him.

Edit: Not you Aword but the guy you're quoting as I have them blocked

[Naychan]

If you really want to make a difference go to https://www.metacritic.com/game/fina...-realm-reborn/ sign in and leave a review.

[PercibelTheren]

If you really want to make a difference go to https://www.metacritic.com/game/fina...-realm-reborn/ sign in and leave a review.

Been there, done that. Or rather, I left a review for Dawntrail. Though I have no clue why you think Metacritic scores will do anything.

[Naychan]

Been there, done that. Or rather, I left a review for Dawntrail. Though I have no clue why you think Metacritic scores will do anything.

I’m hoping it drops a few pegs and the dev team will notice TBH, cause it sure the heck does not seem like they are even paying attention to the American forums where they have the largest player base.

[Lucyfurr1988]

Three responses were given to me and a bunch of whining. None of the three responses that I saw were adequate, actually workable options and the whining goes in the trash.
After like two pages of trash comments I figured I'd skip like 10 pages because I assume they're all the same trash.

Sorry, having to hit LB+(x), then mount up, the LB+(x) to get off the mount crosshotbar sounds incredibly annoying after a day of use let along years.
That's just not going to work. Everything needs to be on two sets of cross hotbars to allow mounts, deep dungeon potions, etc to be on the third. That's 32 free slots to work with.

Every single job fits on 2 hot bars with the WXHB. Get that every single one. Setting up a third option is there with the buttons not on show then 7 more hot bars worth of buttons.

Yes jobs should work on the WXHB but that doesn’t mean the WXHB should limit job design. We have had healers designed better in this very game. With DPS and healing options.

In a game designed around every job doing damage - encounter design heavily encourages this with damage coming out so few and far between - jobs DPS rotations should be fun.

If they’re intent on taking healing responsibilities away from healers with non healing roles having more and more healing/shielding then healers in turn should be given more and more DPS options.

Healers have been relegated to being unnecessary for too long.

The game is no longer balanced around them so 1 of 2 things needs to happen.

Either - remove all healing from non healing roles

Or

Add a meaningful DPS rotation to the healers so we feel like we’re actually contributing.

It’s that simple.

Btw I play controller. Have done for the decade I’ve played this game. I’ve also healed for 8 years and this is the first expansion where I’m actively choosing to play dps instead because healing has become so boring. The fixes could be easily implemented.

Also you’re talking about high end raiders being elitist. Here’s the points you’re missing though.

1 - the game cannot be designed around either the best or worst players. It should be fun for everyone.

2 - a roles responsibility impacts that role more than anything. Having that diminished to the point you don’t NEED that role in the majority of content even with average level players is a major design flaw that needs to be addressed.

[IDontPetLalas]

After multiple futile attempts to have a civil discussion, why bother responding to someone who is seems to be more interested trying to get the thread locked and/or derailed due to their posts.

[currentlemon]

These are actually good insights, I appreciate you. But is this really worth throwing a hissy fit over? Nothing will ever be perfect, ever.
The changes you're talking about seem pretty trivial for all the fuss.

I don’t recall throwing any fits in this thread. Just pointing out my issues with healer design in this game as respectfully as I can.

WHM is my favorite Job in the game, but it and healer design overall hasn’t received any improvements in the past six years in my eyes.

Yes, WHM got a few good things here and there, the Misery buff in 6.1 and the addition of Divine Caress and Glare IV in DT, but nothing has really changed since the Lily rework in 5.0.

The job has gotten stale. That’s why I haven’t touched the job since 5.55. I’d like to see some actual improvements first before I play it again. And this is coming from someone who thinks WHM is the only healer that had improvements in it’s gameplay rotation in DT, despite how small the improvement is.

[Rolder50]

After multiple futile attempts to have a civil discussion, why bother responding to someone who is seems to be more interested trying to get the thread locked and/or derailed due to their posts.

It’s only like 2 or 3 people who don’t post in good faith and it’s best to just ignore them entirely. I’m sure you know who I mean.