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  1. #5841
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    Dubont's Avatar
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    Dubont Matteus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I guess I'll be switching from tank main to healer main since all these people aren't going to be healing, the heal que will be much shorter
    (3)
    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

  2. #5842
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Morgana96 View Post
    I did read them, actually. But like I've said, I'm pretty neutral about all this; I agree and sympathize with some points being made, while I find others kinda silly and poorly founded/explained.

    And again, there's no malice or spite in what I'm saying. You're the one making assumptions about what I've read about this and my intentions, and I can't do anything about that. That's on you.
    I don't believe you did read anything. You literally told us we need to show proof that healers are in a terrible place, you mean what we've been doing for 5 WHOLE YEARS?

    Yeah, I'm sorry, but I do not believe you read a single thing on the healer forums. But if you want to continue acting as if it's entirely our fault and you're just pointing out our flaws, go ahead, but it's not doing anyone any favours.
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  3. #5843
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    SargeTheSeagull's Avatar
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    Rad Calidum
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    I guess I'll be switching from tank main to healer main since all these people aren't going to be healing, the heal que will be much shorter
    Awesome! That’s exactly what we want lol
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  4. #5844
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    I guess I'll be switching from tank main to healer main since all these people aren't going to be healing, the heal que will be much shorter
    Personally, I'd prefer to wait and play a role I enjoy, rather then get an instant queue but be falling asleep the entire time I'm in the dungeon.
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  5. #5845
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    I have to say healers have been pretty unnecessary for dungeons so far. Pretty much feel like they're sandbagging and slowing us down prefer to take like a red mage in their place.
    I thought all the healing potency buffs would mean something but I guess not, there doesn't seem to be much unavoidable damage to heal.
    (12)

  6. #5846
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    I guess I'll be switching from tank main to healer main since all these people aren't going to be healing, the heal que will be much shorter
    Make sure to document your experience from your first dungeon up to the nth dungeon. And be completely honest with yourself about it, alrighty?

    Have fun.
    (3)

  7. #5847
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    Aldath's Avatar
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    Ghael Rehw-setlas
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Honestly, I haven't done any of the 90+ dungeons, and I have done every Trial and Raid currently available in Normal difficulty, but in my experience as a Scholar (was my main for quite some time, retook it recently)

    The only time I feel completely useless is when there's a WAR in the party. Most of the time I am busy trying to keep the party alive and using most of my abilities in casual content; maybe I just have crap luck and I get placed with people even worse than me. That said, I support in spirit whatever strike Healers would plan. I am comfortable with the role as is, but if the majority isn't, then things will have to change. There's many things about this game I wish we could influence, and I hope this works for the better.
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  8. #5848
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    When this strike page started almost 600 pages ago I was firmly in the camp of “this won’t affect the queues but hopefully the catchy name and the discourse will finally allow people to see how bad healers are”, which in a way it did. I don’t know if they will hear any of it (or if they will spend the entire expansion fixing the travesty that is BLM) but I’ve reached a point that I don’t care

    PCT is so hilariously well designed compared to anything around it and I enjoy it so much that the healers can genuinely go rot in a corner at this point.

    If you wanna be contrarian to the strike please you have my every blessing to make my PCT queues faster, I’ve genuinely stopped caring about the state of healers and have moved to “I hope this strike continues to generate contrarians that will fill my queues so I can have fun
    (9)
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  9. #5849
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    GreatCait's Avatar
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    Celina Galphora
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 58
    I started as a WHM when I first started the game. By the end of ARR, I moved on to the Tank role, and then DPS, and haven't played a healer again until just today when I got frustrated with the queue times.

    Honestly, I get it now. My thumb hurts from pressing Circle to cast Stone so much. But also, it's nice to be able to just be able to play the game.

    I feel conflicted, because I want queue times for DPS jobs to go back to being semi reasonable. On the other hand, healers really need some TLC.
    (10)

  10. #5850
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    Striker44's Avatar
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Waited almost 30 minutes to get a healer for the final boss of DT.

    Granted, it's still early but considering the other slots got filled instantly there's still a very obvious disparity in the role usage.
    This is expected, though, because both of the new classes are DPS. Someone earlier dug up a thread from the SB-era (the last time 2 DPS classes were introduced) showing even several months into that xpac, the DPS queues were exceptionally long. I've been consistently finding in roulettes that tank queues are instant and healer queues have minimal time (< 15 seconds). I don't really do DF content on DPS, so no info on those queues.

    You literally told us we need to show proof that healers are in a terrible place, you mean what we've been doing for 5 WHOLE YEARS
    No, what you've (the collective "you" that has been posting, not necessarily "you" specifically) been doing for 5 years is giving your own opinion on why you personally find healing terrible for you. That's very different than proving that healers are actually in a terrible place from the perspective of the larger playerbase and game design. Some of those very same things that one person will claim makes healers "bad" is exactly what makes another person enjoy them (for example - people who want healers to have more dps abilities vs. people who want healers to focus considerably on healing and specifically don't want to be running dps rotations while playing a healer role).
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    Last edited by Striker44; 07-01-2024 at 12:41 PM. Reason: Expanded on last point.

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