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  1. #5611
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    I was going to say, I think the most notable person that was aggressively anti-striker (and terminally online) was that one person who tried to make a "shamesheet". We also have a few exceptional individuals in the topic who keep trying to pull the "oh boy faster queues for me" card without realizing that they're indirectly helping the pro-strikers by insuring they still get healthy queue times even with the increased amount of DPS right now.

    The real "gotcha" is going to be seeing how many of these newfound healers stick with the role, because only a minority of them were playing it in any notable capacity before now (fewer still would even say they mained it), meanwhile the ex-healers (all of whom seem to have mained it) are finally free to move onto something they might actually enjoy. In a way, the strike already partially succeeded because it forced others to take up healer in a way that might be eye-opening to them, and for the ones who never had any complaints to begin with, well nothing changed for them at all now didn't it?

    Even if SE sticks to their guns forever forward, the *demographic* of who is playing healer has undeniably shifted even if the mechanics of the job has stagnated, and now we wait to see if these new healers get any good at it, or even stay with it before they give up too, especially when so many of them are used to more dynamic and engaging mechanics from when they were tanks/DPS.
    At the end of the day, basic dungeon queues weren't too much of a concern (because of trusts mainly). I'll be real curious to see how party finder groups feel once people start doing EX and Savage
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  2. #5612
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    Aidorouge's Avatar
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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    At the end of the day, basic dungeon queues weren't too much of a concern (because of trusts mainly). I'll be real curious to see how party finder groups feel once people start doing EX and Savage
    I could also see it affecting some statics/FCs as well, if their only healers go on strike and none of the others want to step up to fill the role. Going to get a whole lot of drama out of that, which probably makes it fortunate that we just got an update to mute/blacklists, sad as that sounds.
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  3. #5613
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    Galvuu's Avatar
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    Galveira Vorfeed
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    Ragnarok
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    I was going to say, I think the most notable person that was aggressively anti-striker (and terminally online) was that one person who tried to make a "shamesheet".
    The metrics for the sheet were a joke. If you cleared UCoB in 4.1 you were deemed a worse player than if you did it 6.5.
    It wouldn't surprise me if he manipulated the data to make people who post here look worse, and that was literally stalker-levels of data. He dug names, homeworlds, logs... Creepy as hell.
    Thank God every place deleted posts with that sheet. What the hell was that...
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  4. #5614
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    Q'hahtoa Quah
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    Zodiark
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    How's this healer strike going? Instant queues every time on DPS today. Have not had to queue for a single second.
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  5. #5615
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    Striker44's Avatar
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    I was going to say, I think the most notable person that was aggressively anti-striker (and terminally online) was that one person who tried to make a "shamesheet". We also have a few exceptional individuals in the topic who keep trying to pull the "oh boy faster queues for me" card without realizing that they're indirectly helping the pro-strikers by insuring they still get healthy queue times even with the increased amount of DPS right now.
    This argument feels like desperation...the people undermining our strike are actually supporting it! Nope, they're undermining it. The entire stated purpose of the strike is to pressure SE into making changes to the healer role. If other people simply swoop in and take the spots of those who go on "strike," then SE has no reason to change anything. Plain and simple. At the end of the day, success or failure of the "strike" is determined by whether it leads to SE making any meaningful changes to healers and healing. Those who haven't been healers previously that slide into that role now are directly detrimental to the strike.
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  6. #5616
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealQuah View Post
    How's this healer strike going? Instant queues every time on DPS today. Have not had to queue for a single second.
    Sure. Queued for Leveling Roulette as a DPS just to test, average wait time is more then 30m
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  7. #5617
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Sure. Queued for Leveling Roulette as a DPS just to test, average wait time is more then 30m
    I had instant DPS queues above level 90 too. It seems all the DPS players are stuck leveling either VPR or PCT with hour long leveling queues in under level 90 content, while healers and tanks progressed the MSQ overwhelmingly saturating level 90+ dungeons.
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  8. #5618
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Sure. Queued for Leveling Roulette as a DPS just to test, average wait time is more then 30m
    While I can't speak for Dawntrail dungeons, a handful of friends and I leveled Picto and Viper. MSQ roulette took 54 minutes at like 1-2pm est. Everything else was over 30 unless one of us went tank, used Trusts or were willing to pay for merc services. So...
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  9. #5619
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    Myrany's Avatar
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    Myrany Wilzuun
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    Zalera
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    Miner Lv 87
    I am swapping one of my casters over to Machinist (because BLM disgust) and my roulette queues are painful BUT I am on Marilith (Dynamis). I am just going to level her with Duty Support, Fates, Beast tribes I think.

    Hard for me to tell if the queues are because of the strike or because its Dynamis and we are trapped. Still supporting you guys though.
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  10. #5620
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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    Maduin
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    I am swapping one of my casters over to Machinist (because BLM disgust) and my roulette queues are painful BUT I am on Marilith (Dynamis). I am just going to level her with Duty Support, Fates, Beast tribes I think.

    Hard for me to tell if the queues are because of the strike or because its Dynamis and we are trapped. Still supporting you guys though.
    Aye, same, my queues have been bad but I'm also on Dynamis. The combination of being a DPS-only main in player content, two new DPS jobs, and the healer strike isn't helping matters but I'm not blaming the strikers for this, but rather SE for the smooth brain decision to trap me on Dynamis.

    I've already had to accept that I'll have to wait weeks before I can even get started on the new PVP series because pretty much nobody plays the mode over here, and the first chance I get I'm probably going to pay transfer somewhere else. Ironically I got a house on a lark before the maintenance happened, but I find it a pretty useless vanity item now compared to everything else I'm denied access to because I had the audacity to pick the "wrong" data center.
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