
#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
1: Healers need something to do when they aren't healing, the lousy one button dps experience and occasional second just is not enough.
2: The sustain of the nonhealer jobs has taken our job from us...which has left us nothing to do besides our lousy one button dps experience.
3: We do not need most of the healing buttons...a lot of those buttons can straight up be removed or consolidated. Which would be a good thing to consolidate using the new sys.
4: Pure & Shield means nothing and having any combination of the two is just overkill.


im going to be running 0 healer roulette PF in dawntrial for no other reason than because we simply dont need them. and the sad thing is.. if you do this.. the game actually becomes hard again because you NEED to communicate with you team and plan out mits and heals..
mental.. i know




Unless you're a warrior and can Nacent Flash a DPS every 24s and bring them (and the tank) from zero to full, or shake it off to cover any aoe that goes out.im going to be running 0 healer roulette PF in dawntrial for no other reason than because we simply dont need them. and the sad thing is.. if you do this.. the game actually becomes hard again because you NEED to communicate with you team and plan out mits and heals..
mental.. i know
Last edited by Deceptus; 06-10-2024 at 07:29 PM.
Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]
This thread is so overdramatic lol


asked for changes for years... did not get them -> escalate situation; seems reasonable to me!
I just want some competent job design along with a mild difficulty curve. Asking for more seems to much right now.
#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE Discord: https://discord.gg/BKF6YSUDXc
Frontlines Guide: https://oliguide.carrd.co/


im laughing
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Dawntrail is already finished. There's no use asking for a change. There are two ways out:
1) Hope that the new foray content will replace all four-man content for tomes and relics. No healers should be required. You can't queue roulettes without a healer, so those forms of content will just have to die. Raids can be cleared with non-standard parties in PF as usual. No one will miss the absence of healers and the game will be better off without hallway dungeons, so nothing of value will be lost. Many MMOs and RPGs don't have a healer class either and you will likely enjoy forays more.
2) If #1 isn't possible, make The War Within more popular than Dawntrail. You all will have to go back to WoW where healers actually exist. If #1 is impossible it would likely be due to forays sucking or not even existing, which is typical for Square Enix. No forays would mean that Dawntrail would be worse than both Endwalker and WoW and you can safely leave the game without missing anything.
I'm sure a couple of people will be sad to see healers in FFXIV die off, but most people will be fine. It's a video game and healers were always trash in FFXIV. Don't pretend that Cleric Stance made anything better, because it didn't.
And if you really, really want to heal in a video game, may I suggest not letting a woman do a man's work?
Last edited by caffe_macchiato; 06-10-2024 at 09:12 AM.


They will change things if there's enough demand, and you can que roulettes without a healer, just have to group up first.
I just want some competent job design along with a mild difficulty curve. Asking for more seems to much right now.
#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE Discord: https://discord.gg/BKF6YSUDXc
Frontlines Guide: https://oliguide.carrd.co/
WoW healers aren't exactly happy with the state of their game currently either. Just saying.2) If #1 isn't possible, make The War Within more popular than Dawntrail. You all will have to go back to WoW where healers actually exist. If #1 is impossible it would likely be due to forays sucking or not even existing, which is typical for Square Enix. No forays would mean that Dawntrail would be worse than both Endwalker and WoW and you can safely leave the game without missing anything.
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