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  1. #1
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    Wildheaven182's Avatar
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    Rowan Aarontagdh
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Why can't WHM get Aquaveil for the water conjurer quest? It's weird getting nothing since they removed Fluid Aura a long time ago. But if they were going to add a water skill back in, why put it randomly at like lvl 76 or whatever? Giving WHM a lvl 15 damage mit isn't going to break the game, I promise.

    Don't even get me started on arcanist beginner quests, and it's a terrible first impression to new players when the game tells you to use abilities and do mechanics that don't exist anymore.
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    Well I think going on strike is also just dumb,
    I will quit playing healer 4 weeks after savage releases and I have all my gear.
    Then I will be a pf dps.
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    elioaiko's Avatar
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    Junhee Hatsuharu
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 94
    Tbf ppl are either putting up with it to please their FC/friends.

    I only do it for ppl who ask nicely. I had a really bad experience in roulette earlier and it enrages me bc bad players just expect healers to do the most while point fingers when things go wrong–and out of my control.

    All the simplifying of healers is just make good players leave out of frustration and new ones clueless since they're going to be praised for doing the bare minimum while bashing vets for wanting more.

    Atp I'm just waiting for the excuses and over buffing of healers to compensate for "Oh sorry we forgot a out you guys!"
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    PercibelTheren's Avatar
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    Percibel Theren
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by elioaiko View Post
    Tbf ppl are either putting up with it to please their FC/friends.
    I ended up busting out WHM for this reason. My FC is usually about 40% healer mains but everyone is leveling the new jobs and keeps asking for tanks and healers to shorten their queues, so I caved and decided to help out.
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 91
    I think the real tell is going to be Party Finder. And a quick glance shows a lot of open groups waiting on healers...

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    lolnotacat's Avatar
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    K'ayla Rhiki
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I think the real tell is going to be Party Finder. And a quick glance shows a lot of open groups waiting on healers...

    I main healer and that's usually the case, excluding the start of EW because we got SGE.
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    Percibel Theren
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by lolnotacat View Post
    I main healer and that's usually the case, excluding the start of EW because we got SGE.
    On Zodiark when the second tier of Savage was current, it was specifically shield healers who were missing because like 85% of the healer population on Zodiark is WHM for some reason.
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    Eleasaid Seraqa
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by lolnotacat View Post
    I main healer and that's usually the case, excluding the start of EW because we got SGE.
    You'd think that would have send a message a long time ago. While it doesn't tell SE what is wrong with the role (they can look at the healer subforum for that), it does clearly show something is wrong. For years.

    But maybe SE just twisted that message into something completely backwards. Like: players must really hate playing healers, we better make sure healers have to heal as little as possible.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    You'd think that would have send a message a long time ago. While it doesn't tell SE what is wrong with the role (they can look at the healer subforum for that), it does clearly show something is wrong. For years.

    But maybe SE just twisted that message into something completely backwards. Like: players must really hate playing healers, we better make sure healers have to heal as little as possible.
    You'd think they'd lean in more into the damage rotation part then but not with SE. Not designed to heal, no designed to deal damage. Why are we here. Why does pvp get to have fun job design for everyone but not pve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao
    Quote Originally Posted by os12ispeak View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Medim Azurarok
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    You'd think that would have send a message a long time ago. While it doesn't tell SE what is wrong with the role (they can look at the healer subforum for that), it does clearly show something is wrong. For years.

    But maybe SE just twisted that message into something completely backwards. Like: players must really hate playing healers, we better make sure healers have to heal as little as possible.
    I have wondered if some things actually do get lost in translation, maybe even intentionally by whoever is summarizing feedback to YoshiP, considering the question asked in the Q&A that spawned the infamous "go play ultimates" line was a bit twisted out of shape when it made it to him (was able to find the links thanks to this thread).
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