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    Pavise's Avatar
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    Alek Sol
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    Ravana
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    Healers kinda brought it on themselves, SE listened to your feedback and put more weight onto oGCD heals meaning you weren't hardcasting them as much.

    Healers also complained about the lack of time they're able to deal damage, so they gave others better defensive kits.

    Now healers are complaining that those defensive kits given to others have invalidated their role and that SE doesn't listen to them?

    Cmon guys something's got to give.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavise View Post
    Healers kinda brought it on themselves, SE listened to your feedback and put more weight onto oGCD heals meaning you weren't hardcasting them as much.

    Healers also complained about the lack of time they're able to deal damage, so they gave others better defensive kits.

    Now healers are complaining that those defensive kits given to others have invalidated their role and that SE doesn't listen to them?

    Cmon guys something's got to give.
    I'm gonna need a citation for this because I have read countless problems with healers across the years and none of what you've said has ever even brought up in all the threads that I've seen, either on these forums, Reddit, Twitter or any other social media site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    I'm gonna need a citation for this because I have read countless problems with healers across the years and none of what you've said has ever even brought up in all the threads that I've seen, either on these forums, Reddit, Twitter or any other social media site.
    They are right, didn't you see the 4 year long thread of feedback on the healer forum? The first point there is clearly that we want more oGCDs and the second is clearly that we want to heal less.

    /s in case someone don't get it
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavise View Post
    Healers kinda brought it on themselves, SE listened to your feedback and put more weight onto oGCD heals meaning you weren't hardcasting them as much.
    Uhhh.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavise View Post
    Healers also complained about the lack of time they're able to deal damage, so they gave others better defensive kits.
    Please cite some sources or I'm going to assume this is either an outright lie or delusional head cannon?

    Meanwhile, here's me complaining that we were already spending FAR too much time spamming GCD DAMAGE almost 3 years ago.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5654573

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavise View Post
    Now healers are complaining that those defensive kits given to others have invalidated their role and that SE doesn't listen to them?

    Cmon guys something's got to give.
    Give me something to do that's not mashing one button to infinity until the point that the RGB in my glare key has failed and I honestly wouldn't care.

    HW/SB AST was fun even if I didn't have much to heal. ARR/HW SCH was fun even if I didn't have much to heal. Why? Because both offered layers and complexity. I had things to do that weren't mashing the same button 10 times in a row.
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

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    Garra Monde
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Joining the strike. Been a player off and on since ARR - I miss the team challenge and coordination balance of healing and relying on each other. Always been a healer - left WoW because I believe this game has better combat. Changed to RDM last two xpacs because I can still heal while having something interesting to do (I don’t personally want that to be dps btw, but this isn’t an argument about what we should do more of).

    I hate that the healer skills are used almost only when tanks see giant pulls ans the norm and there’s no need to communication. I don’t enjoy being dragged along.

    We’ve morphed into siloed roles to where only group mechanics really bring us together. Help us help ourselves through collaboration and not through only “doing your individual part”. We’re better as a party. Heck, EW’s narrative told us this.

    I believe no role is feeling the worst effects of the “focus on yourself” more than the healer - who finds joy in their role from team enablement not just team recovery. I was stoked to get into AST - hopeful to broadly replace my dps rotations with minor buffs - I’d rather buff than dps. Was hoping AST would have more of a heal and buff cycle and Whm would be more heal and dps cycle.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon082 View Post
    Been a player off and on since ARR - I miss the team challenge and coordination balance of healing and relying on each other.
    As much as being able to handle yourself on a tank or a DPS can be fun, it felt better when the holy trinity mattered. Because now I just genuinely don't have to care about the healer.

    I was in Lapis Manalis earlier on DRG. The healer and a DPS died. Me and the tank kept being left to duo the boss without a healer (spoiler: we did, thanks Bloodbath, Second Wind, thanks Nascent Flash, thanks Shake It Off, thanks Feint, not that we even needed these).

    Due to the healer and a DPS dying, I was waiting with the tank next to the adds. I just looked at the tank as if to say "go on then", because we don't exactly need a healer lol. Good tank went and pulled big without the healer and we were fine while they caught up.

    Usually if there's no healer in a dungeon when I'm tanking, I just pull anyways. It's good for there to be a possiblity of soloing if you're really good and just barely clutch it, but it being so ridiculously easy to achieve makes you not even value the healer role when doing a dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    They are right, didn't you see the 4 year long thread of feedback on the healer forum? The first point there is clearly that we want more oGCDs and the second is clearly that we want to heal less.

    /s in case someone don't get it
    Did you link the right thing, or is this sarcasm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaLugria View Post
    Did you link the right thing, or is this sarcasm?
    Its sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    The /s was already a dead giveaway.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE


    - Seraphism is BAD.
    - Give us back Shadowflare and make Deployment/Emergency Tactics affect Biolysis
    - Give us back Rouse
    - Make pet management rewarding.

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    Keanu Luz
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Reading this - I have information I'd like from those calling for a strike. (1/2)

    Firstly, it seems to me that the straw that has broke the metaphorical camel's back is the successful completion of the story dungeon in the Media Tour build of Dawntrail. With that being the case, is it a fair assessment to say that a central goal of this strike is to make it so healers are required to execute on that type of content? That is, it is this group's opinion that there should be no scenario where one can complete a dungeon without a healer present?

    Secondly. what brings you joy as a healer? Why do you play the job? For me, I appreciate that the power I'm furnished with as it pertains to the health of the party. I derive joy from seeing no damage done to the party because of extra strong shields or recovering the party to full from low health with the press of a couple of buttons.
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