Ya... uhmmm, good healer gameplay right now is to do as little healing as possible whole doing as much dps as possible.


Ya... uhmmm, good healer gameplay right now is to do as little healing as possible whole doing as much dps as possible.
Well...if things die faster, then less healing is needed...so more DPS means less healing anyways.
Sure, the potency of all non-healer role sustains could be lowered, but not likely to happen in the near future.
This isn't some kind of new phenomenon caused by FFlogs.
If your win condition is to make the health bar reach 0 in a certain timeframe then "improving" your gameplay means you perform your primary role while you eliminate unnecessary actions that do not contribute to making the health bar reach 0.
The reason why GCD healing is generally considered bad nowadays is a consequence of CBU3's design decisions, making the healer role completely bloated with oGCDs that allow you to keep the party alive while never causing you to not contribute to lowering that health bar, therefore making all GCD healing unnecessary actions.
Last edited by Absurdity; 06-10-2024 at 02:00 AM.

That was already a thing before that even exist. Even tanks droped the tank stance (when that stance reduced your dps back then) to do more damage at risk to take more damage/lose aggro (since it wasn't as easy to keep it as now)
You don't even need to care about aggro as tank anymore for ages and I don't remember people talking about it.
Clean everything before any nerf is my goal. No matter the time needed to reach the last hp and beat it.
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Hey... Cleric Stance-ignoring Lustrate existed in ARR



1. Tanks have to much self-healing and self-sustaine.
2: DPS should get their self heal removed , RDM/SMN should have their ress removed.
3. Higher Healing Requirements.
More unavoidable dmg and dot dmg..ect
4. Healer dps kit reworked!
I don't think adding more dps button solves the fundamental issue with it,
it need complete rework.
(You can have fun and engaging dps kit w/o many buttons with great design).
I lean more toward higher healing requirements , and making healers needed
than adding just more dps buttons to blated kit.
(These are the Issues i have had with ffxiv healer deisgn - since i started (EW))
Note: Is it big enough of a problem to make me quit playing healer in DT? No.
But if there is a change that this will be addressed/worked upon i will gladly join.
☆SCH/AST/DNC/VPR/SMN☆
things are getting desperate I assume
It's going to be hilarious when DT launches, there's no healer shortage, and people are confronted with the fact that social media is a small, self-selecting echo chamber.
I only heal in casual content (quick queues because nobody else wants to “play” healer lol) but I think you shouldn’t need to do the hardest content in the game on a role in order to actually have fun playing it. Casual content doesn’t do a very good job of teaching people how to play the role, since outside of niche situations it doesn’t place much stress on them. This is also the only game I have ever played where healing big pulls in dungeons gets significantly easier as you level up, to the point where you literally have to do nothing (a somewhat competent DRK in expert barely needs whispering dawn). If EW patches and Dawntrail are going to be the new player experience at some point, players who choose to play a healer will struggle to get any feedback from the game about how their skills are developing, at least until they fight Zeromus. In a dungeon like Lunar Subterrane though it literally does not matter what buttons you press, and I think that’s insulting to the player’s intelligence
They either need to give healers a damage rotation equivalent to that of a non-WAR tank and basically turn them into proper support DPS (and consolidate many healing abilities in the process), nerf set and forget party-wide tank heal/shields like SIO and veil, increase outgoing unavoidable damage and its frequency,, or some combination of those things.
I just want healer to be fun to play at all levels of the game and I don’t think that’s an unreasonable request.

I'm adding my name as well cause yeah I guess what is the point of healers with these new skills lol XD cool
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