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    Elmind Exilus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    Most in-game activities are instanced duties. Dungeons, Trials, Raids, Criterion, Alliance Raids, Treasure Maps...etc. Also, enemies die faster if you bring additional DPS. As long as enemies die before mitigation enhancements wear off, tanks will be fine. Not to mention WAR only need Bloodwhetting.
    Some people don't care for roulettes and spend most of their time doing MSQ, side quests, FATEs, Tribal Dailies, etc., all of which occur outside of instances.

    Are you defending FFXIV current design or are you criticizing it? Yoshi-p has been painstakingly enforcing Pure Healer/Barrier Healer split since the start of EW, and now you say it's good when you don't need specific one and another? It's contradictory to what the dev team intended.
    He straight up called it good game design. Meaning that the healers are sufficiently similar in that they're balanced so you can feasibly take any of the healer roles in a group without hamstringing your group, while still giving each one enough unique touches to give it its own identity.

    Right now, in this thread, healers from both ends of the spectrum, casual and hardcore, are not happy with the current state of the healers.
    Because people are naturally more apt to complain, and this is a voluntary sample of people who choose to post on the forum, rather than a truly random sampling of healers in-game. I'm a casual healer who is very much enjoying the current state of healers, for the record. And there are many more of us in-game that just aren't among the minuscule few that post on the forums.

    Can't tell if you're arguing in good faith or not because there were at least 50 of you in this thread that just left the chat and disappear whenever their arguments got challenged.
    You're assuming everyone is here to "argue" and go back and forth. People can also just be stopping in to post their two cents with no intention of engaging in a protracted debate (especially against an echo chamber likely to gang up on them for daring to disagree and enjoy healing).
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    Eleasaid Seraqa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    You're assuming everyone is here to "argue" and go back and forth. People can also just be stopping in to post their two cents with no intention of engaging in a protracted debate (especially against an echo chamber likely to gang up on them for daring to disagree and enjoy healing).
    You might get a different response if most of your posts weren't attempts to downplay (or at times attack/ridicule) the strike. Try that with any other group of people who gathered around a cause.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    You might get a different response if most of your posts weren't attempts to downplay (or at times attack/ridicule) the strike. Try that with any other group of people who gathered around a cause.
    It's not even because of the strike. It's because every time someone brings up their grievances with the game, Striker is there to do the exact same song and dance.
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Some people don't care for roulettes and spend most of their time doing MSQ, side quests, FATEs, Tribal Dailies, etc., all of which occur outside of instances.
    And for MSQ, Side Quests, most Fates, dailies, etc, you will generally have nothing to heal period and spend the entirety of your time doing that content using exclusively two buttons. Whereas other jobs at least have a full rotation to keep them engaged. In what world is a two button job acceptable.
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    And for MSQ, Side Quests, most Fates, dailies, etc, you will generally have nothing to heal period and spend the entirety of your time doing that content using exclusively two buttons. Whereas other jobs at least have a full rotation to keep them engaged. In what world is a two button job acceptable.
    Idk what's so hard to understand about this point..we had to have stated it at least 200 times now.
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Some people don't care for roulettes and spend most of their time doing MSQ, side quests, FATEs, Tribal Dailies, etc., all of which occur outside of instances.
    Some people..?

    It doesn't matter. Dungeons, trials, raids, criterion, alliance raids, treasure maps are all part of the core gameplay loop.
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTIBA View Post
    This entire protest makes absolutely no Twelve-damned sense (ranting)
    This entire post makes absolutely no Twelve-damned sense, we clearly don't play the same game, I hope you have fun in yours while I play mine.
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Meh, regarding possible longer queues, healers who switch job will also have to deal with the same queues.
    Besides, longer queues aren't the end.
    Not that I think there will be a big difference from how it is now, I plan on grinding the FATEs for the zone unlocks and colorgems while waiting incase.
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Warrior and Paladin are now the healers
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    Medim Azurarok
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    To be honest I'm a fan of the mitigation the other roles have now. WAR feels great to use because of its absurd self-sustain. It's like being a healer with a dps rotation! (especially if you're OT)

    I've also had more than enough rough runs in roulettes with each role to appreciate not having all the mitigation/healing tools exclusively on the healers. Skill levels understandably vary the most in normal content.

    It's why I think expanding healer DPS kits is the only really reasonable option they have left.
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