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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    you know, you can join the discord as well if you are paranoid about it. there have been zero requests to mass report anyone on the official forums nor anywhere else. I would need to see what proof you have of this since it would be important to know if someone is actually doing this. even the discord has many differing opinions and they can easily be discussed.

    so, if you are going to spread something like this, I would like to see proof of it, since it would affect many peoples participation as it allegedly affected yours.
    This does make me giggle. "The strikers don't have the power to change anything!" and also "The strikers have the power to get you banned from the forums." Pick one.
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    Weltu Lolokero
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naouu View Post
    As someone who has played all jobs I think these complaints are incredibly stupid
    Seconded. This tier's been a lot of fun on SGE/WHM.
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Players tend to seek out support roles based on the perceived value that they bring to their teammates. FFXIV has systematically devalued support gameplay over the past few expansions. Healers have been hit hardest by this due to the combined effect of role encroachment from both of the other roles, in addition to the rotational simplifications and mitigation bloat that have impacted both support types.

    I think the biggest impact that this discussion has had is in raising the question: 'Do we, as a community, value healers?' That's the real point underlying the healerless clear VODs that we've seen across this expansion. The common ground that we can see from observing both sides of the conversation is that this playerbase really doesn't value healers. As that perception becomes more widespread, you'll find fewer people who would have traditionally opted for the role actually picking it up.

    What tends to stabilize support populations somewhat is the identity that support players develop over many years as 'career tanks' and 'career healers'. That gets reinforced partially by the perception of being the 'go to person' for that role in your circle of friends, and partially by pure habit. When you see so many longstanding healers openly state that they're switching to other roles, it makes you re-examine what your own goals are around playing the role. Change is often difficult, but once you overcome that initial inertia you might find yourself asking why you didn't do this sooner yourself.

    Once players make the switch over to greener pastures, then it becomes twice as difficult to bring them back. It no longer becomes enough to offer up a 'healer role' that self-identified 'healer mains' can unquestioningly fall into. You then actually have to incentivize people to play it over DPS or tank.

    That's the reason why I see this as a confluence of individuals voluntarily making a change for themselves, rather than unionized action against the game direction. You can't force a change. It's about more giving yourself the value that you actually deserve. And as more healers make personal decisions do this by swapping roles, it stimulates others to reflect on why they're still stuck on a role that nobody else values.

    Dawntrail is the vacation expansion, after all. Sometimes you just need to pack up and take some time away from an unfulfilling role.
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    I mean regardless of the queues the strike has already accomplished its goal. It has brought light to the healer problems.

    Just look at the reactions of the SE white knights or the media coverage it has received, this is a first for healers and hopefully it brings changes to the role in the future
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    Drafus Thicc'rod
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    I'll still play healer during launch. DPS queues will be miserable with or without a healer "strike"

    Seems incredibly petty and selfish to make the enjoyment of other players playing other roles be affected during the launch of an Expansion.

    You're doing the wrong thing for the right reasons. And I applaud everyone who isn't going to take part on this petty immature strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RulerOfPotaoes View Post
    I'll still play healer during launch. DPS queues will be miserable with or without a healer "strike"

    Seems incredibly petty and selfish to make the enjoyment of other players playing other roles be affected during the launch of an Expansion.

    You're doing the wrong thing for the right reasons. And I applaud everyone who isn't going to take part on this petty immature strike.
    "Play the boring role, or you're selfish"
    How about Square fix their game to make us want to play healer again.
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    Eira Landale
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    The healer's job is not to make sure other people are allowed to enjoy the game. If a healer no longer enjoys healing, then they absolutely can change their role without being petty, selfish, and wrong.
    Or are all the current DPS and tanks all petty, selfish, and wrong for not playing healer too?
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    No no no no you see IM not selfish for playing DPS because WOTJSMGLAJGHXNEMwgkdkgmb but YOU are selfish because you won’t fill my queues

    Glad we could clear this up
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Percibel Theren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    No no no no you see IM not selfish for playing DPS because WOTJSMGLAJGHXNEMwgkdkgmb but YOU are selfish because you won’t fill my queues

    Glad we could clear this up
    I thought Arthars was just being Arthars calling casual healers NPCs but, as it turns out, apparently quite a large chunk of the community sees healers that way, which is really sad.
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    Rawker Stone
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    I thought Arthars was just being Arthars calling casual healers NPCs but, as it turns out, apparently quite a large chunk of the community sees healers that way, which is really sad.
    Healers are always seen as doormats.. Even in most games, a healer is mostly a slave account.
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