#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Local_Custard]

woo page 500!
do you think it'll be 1000 pages within a month?

[ZephyrMenodora]

woo page 500!
do you think it'll be 1000 pages within a month?

Guessing the expansion launches and we get 100 pages of people saying they got groups immediately and the strike failed, before we lose interest for 2 more years.

[Local_Custard]

Guessing the expansion launches and we get 100 pages of people saying they got groups immediately and the strike failed, before we lose interest for 2 more years.

hm... I wouldn't be so doubtful so soon of the strike.

[ZephyrMenodora]

hm... I wouldn't be so doubtful so soon of the strike.

I'm still in the camp that this was amazing for awareness, but don't personally think it will change much in game. But never know.

[Local_Custard]

I'm still in the camp that this was amazing for awareness, but don't personally think it will change much in game. But never know.

We need to stay hopeful to some degree. This strike is already doing a good job of getting people to talk about healer issues. I personally expect DT to experience a dried up green river.

[Reinha]

Guessing the expansion launches and we get 100 pages of people saying they got groups immediately and the strike failed, before we lose interest for 2 more years.

Oh no way, I don't think people (dps) are going to get groups immediately at all. I was here in Stormblood when we had the first double dps expansion and the queues were much longer than usual. It may not be because of the strike, but people are certainly not going to be celebrating their instant queues.

Here's someone talking about it 4 months after Stormblood release, and the comments agree the queue times were long.

Of course I could be wrong and I would be happy to be, considering I'll be playing dps myself.

[Vyrerus]

Man, if y'all keep up at this pace, you'll eclipse the page count for Endwalker was Lackluster thread by mid July.

[Cach]

Traditionally, tanks are rare almost all times of the year, but specially during expansion launches. I don't think that will change much.

If you think about it, perhaps Square's need to make the tanking role more desirable is what indirectly planted the seeds of healing design troubles. But that's a whole another discussion I guess.

[EusisLandale]

Traditionally, tanks that are rare almost all times of the year, but specially during expansion launches. I don't think that will change much.

I recall someone mentioning earlier, probably in this thread, that the way the in need system even bothers to show things is flawed for just moving down the list by tank, healer, then DPS. I don't know how accurate that statement was, but it generally tracks with what can be observed.
Like say you have 6 groups, absurdly small but bare with it, and they're 1T1D, 1T2D, 1T2D, 1T1D1H, 2D, and 2D1H. To fill all of these you'd need 2 tanks, 2 DPS and 4 healers. Healers clearly have the greatest need, but tanks are needed too and the system prioritizes displaying that. This is why it constantly says we need tanks, but trying to queue as a tank still leaves you waiting while a healer pops almost instantly.

[Supersnow845]

AIN biases tanks 100%, simply because tank is the “default AIN” when either nobody is needed or everyone is needed. The only time healers are AIN is when BOTH healers are needed and tanks specifically aren’t needed, for DPS both healers and tanks need to not be needed

This is because tanks did use to be the rarer role overall in HW and SB, it’s also why the tank mount and tank achievement system exists. However since ShB healers flipped to the rarer role (as per the most recent lucky brancho mega census there is now 50% more tanks than healers and about half as many tanks as DPS) but they never updated the system to prioritise healers by default

So currently tanks get all the benefits as the “coddled super rare role” while healers are actually rarer