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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfius View Post
    OK now that we're taking about healers not getting enough attention let's talk about how come tanks skills like PLD Holy Sheltron and GNB Heart of Corondum has shield animations when getting hit and Sage new class on Endwalker who came the same expansion as those skills and is a "Shield Healer" class doesn't have any shield animations like scholar on their barriers at all.
    That's something that bugged me since AST nocturnal stance back in those days and I thought maybe it's a lot of work, and I been waiting and waiting they took notice but clearly they did since they're giving to tanks and I think reaper has shield animation too on their Arcane Crest, again a class that came with the Sage, the developers need to pay attention to this because it kinda hurts the dps and tanks got really cool skills, but healers are getting no animations on their shields and a 1 2 but Dps with not enough damage on tanks during dungeons to keep up the effort on healing.
    What do you mean? You get a cylinder shield animation when you use E Diagnosis and a square shield when you use Haima. AoE shielding isn't as obvious but some like Kerachole do show a brief circle animation around a player. Holos and Panhaima are a little hard to tell, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    What do you mean? You get a cylinder shield animation when you use E Diagnosis and a square shield when you use Haima. AoE shielding isn't as obvious but some like Kerachole do show a brief circle animation around a player. Holos and Panhaima are a little hard to tell, though.
    They are talking about how when you get hit, a VFX appears on your character showing the barrier. Examples below.
    BLM Manaward:

    WAR Bloodwhetting:

    SGE doesn't show any effects:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozeee View Post
    They are talking about how when you get hit, a VFX appears on your character showing the barrier. Examples below.
    BLM Manaward:

    WAR Bloodwhetting:

    SGE doesn't show any effects:
    Huh, never really noticed that. I got curious so I went out and tried shielding and letting some things hit on me. I'm not seeing anything on Holy Shelltron on hits. HoC does seem to get one small thing on the first hit but I never saw anything after that. Divine Benison and Aquaveil don't have anything either. So it seems application is a bit inconsistent already.

    Just tried Arcane Crest too and didn't see anything. It may be more they don't do it anymore on new abilities in general than just not on specific classes or roles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Huh, never really noticed that. I got curious so I went out and tried shielding and letting some things hit on me. I'm not seeing anything on Holy Shelltron on hits. HoC does seem to get one small thing on the first hit but I never saw anything after that. Divine Benison and Aquaveil don't have anything either. So it seems application is a bit inconsistent already.

    Just tried Arcane Crest too and didn't see anything. It may be more they don't do it anymore on new abilities in general than just not on specific classes or roles.
    I am quite sure both Holy Shelltron and HoC has an effect on hit, just that they are limited to the initial 4s duration where you have an extra 10% mitigation or something similar. I'm guessing what Wolfius is referring to is the breaking of Arcane Crest, which would require the whole shield to be depleted. All the tank mits are added this expansion so I doubt the VFX is limited to legacy abilities. I tested this with Heart of Stone and it did not have any effects.

    EDIT: just tested this and yes, both Holy Shelltron and HoC has an effect on hit but is limited to the 4s. HoC even has a sound that goes off when you get hit.

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    With all the bad faith posts the healer strike had in the past, it's easy to assume new posts are more of the same. But that isn't helping the cause. Please keep assuming good faith until clearly proven otherwise for each individual poster.
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    Stop paying your Sub if ou are serious

    If you keep paying your sub this means nothing. Plenty of folks will fill in for healing who don't care. You really want to get Squares attention convince a few 100,000 people to turn off auto renew on their subscription on 6.28.24. Give up your housing and FC's. Show them you mean real business. Otherwise not playing a specific job but still paying to play is going to amount to jack and spit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaIggy View Post
    If you keep paying your sub this means nothing. Plenty of folks will fill in for healing who don't care. You really want to get Squares attention convince a few 100,000 people to turn off auto renew on their subscription on 6.28.24. Give up your housing and FC's. Show them you mean real business. Otherwise not playing a specific job but still paying to play is going to amount to jack and spit.
    and stopping paying a sub will do anything are you joking right, you cant be that naive with how many bots pop up all over the place constantly people being upset over healer unsubing wont do a damn thing since millions of bots make it irrelevant of an action
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaIggy View Post
    If you keep paying your sub this means nothing. Plenty of folks will fill in for healing who don't care. You really want to get Squares attention convince a few 100,000 people to turn off auto renew on their subscription on 6.28.24. Give up your housing and FC's. Show them you mean real business. Otherwise not playing a specific job but still paying to play is going to amount to jack and spit.
    Lazy selfquote:

    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    You're the 5th person trying to get healers to unsubscribe. This was all answered before.

    - The intent of the strike, or the people supporting the strike, is not to unsubscribe.
    - Unsubscribing from FF brings into question the feedback itself, it's quite likely devs are less eager to listen to feedback from unsubscribed players.
    - There isn't a way to let the devs know why a specific account unsubscribed, that could be for any number of reasons and will likely get drowned out by the huge changes in subscriber numbers that come with any new expansion.
    - Your attempts at convincing people to unsubscribe are unwanted, and it's frankly non of your business what services other people subscribe to.
    - Continued attempt to convince people to unsubscribe cross the line from unwanted to creepy.
    - It's a disingenuous advice. The unsubscribe argument is a transparent attempt to dismiss the complaints, by claiming they aren't serious since healers are unwilling to unsubscribe. That has never been a valid argument to counter any form of player feedback.
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    Imagine... imagine having something more than just -one thing- to enjoy from a game.

    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
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    Might have to do more of these in the future tbh. Recycled arguments deserves recycled rebuttal(s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaIggy View Post
    If you keep paying your sub this means nothing. Plenty of folks will fill in for healing who don't care. You really want to get Squares attention convince a few 100,000 people to turn off auto renew on their subscription on 6.28.24. Give up your housing and FC's. Show them you mean real business. Otherwise not playing a specific job but still paying to play is going to amount to jack and spit.
    A lot of people in this thread seem frustrated that we're still going to have fun playing the game without providing "healing NPC" services. Sorry to see it, I hope you too are able to cope with the fact we have agency over what we spend our money on and what content we do.
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