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    Quote Originally Posted by Paine_Blackstar View Post
    This strike is ridiculous. (ranting)
    This post is ridiculous, that is all.
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    Its like what 300 people not playing healers? That's like a drop in the ocean. It's not even going to affect queue times for the roulettes or raids. People want quick que's they will heal themselves. That's just how it is. Nothing is going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaineIV View Post
    Its like what 300 people not playing healers? That's like a drop in the ocean. It's not even going to affect queue times for the roulettes or raids. People want quick que's they will heal themselves. That's just how it is. Nothing is going to happen.
    Yet another person who doesn't read. Always fun.
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    I find it telling that the anti-strike posts always say things like "stop whining" and "this is hurting others in the game," but none - none - of them address our main concerns with the healing role:
    1. Healers spend more time DPSing than healing at all content levels, verifiable from data parses.
    2. Our DPS "rotations" primarily consist of a DoT and a single direct-damage ability spammed ad nauseum.
    3. The game meta has evolved around this general devaluation of the healer role, evidenced by things like wall-to-wall pulls being expected and tank self-sustain growing to ridiculous proportions.
    4. There being no encounters in the game that highlight/prioritize the healing role.

    It's fine to be critical, but you gotta come with better arguments than "suck it up so everyone else can have fun."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amity_Roji View Post
    I find it telling that the anti-strike posts always say things like "stop whining" and "this is hurting others in the game," but none - none - of them address our main concerns with the healing role:
    1. Healers spend more time DPSing than healing at all content levels, verifiable from data parses.
    2. Our DPS "rotations" primarily consist of a DoT and a single direct-damage ability spammed ad nauseum.
    3. The game meta has evolved around this general devaluation of the healer role, evidenced by things like wall-to-wall pulls being expected and tank self-sustain growing to ridiculous proportions.
    4. There being no encounters in the game that highlight/prioritize the healing role.

    It's fine to be critical, but you gotta come with better arguments than "suck it up so everyone else can have fun."
    Yep, even on the worst ultimate clears, you can check the healer and they are still using 70%+ of their GCDs on damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amity_Roji View Post
    I find it telling that the anti-strike posts always say things like "stop whining" and "this is hurting others in the game," but none - none - of them address our main concerns with the healing role:
    1. Healers spend more time DPSing than healing at all content levels, verifiable from data parses.
    2. Our DPS "rotations" primarily consist of a DoT and a single direct-damage ability spammed ad nauseum.
    3. The game meta has evolved around this general devaluation of the healer role, evidenced by things like wall-to-wall pulls being expected and tank self-sustain growing to ridiculous proportions.
    4. There being no encounters in the game that highlight/prioritize the healing role.

    It's fine to be critical, but you gotta come with better arguments than "suck it up so everyone else can have fun."
    If you are using FFLOGs as a bar for any form of data it is used by maybe less than 15% of the entire game population. It may be accurate to those who use it, but it's not accurate as a whole. It's why the Developers don't use FFLOGs or any other form of third party data gathering. They use their own metrics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaineIV View Post
    If you are using FFLOGs as a bar for any form of data it is used by maybe less than 15% of the entire game population. It may be accurate to those who use it, but it's not accurate as a whole. It's why the Developers don't use FFLOGs or any other form of third party data gathering. They use their own metrics.
    so one must ask, if it is used by less than 15% of the population, why has it been used to try and discredit the strike? usually by people who apparently live and die by their parses and say "do harder stuff"

    as for the timing.. when is a good time for you?
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    so one must ask, if it is used by less than 15% of the population, why has it been used to try and discredit the strike? usually by people who apparently live and die by their parses and say "do harder stuff"

    as for the timing.. when is a good time for you?
    2 weeks ago a week ago when it actually matters, there are tons of people taking a break or catching up on story. Only late bloomers are doing raids. It would have been the most effective as it MAY have actually effected que times. Trying on launch day when literally almost the entire world is going to be logging in on the same time makes no impact at all. It's like throwing a stuffed toy at a brick wall thinking its going to do damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaineIV View Post
    2 weeks ago a week ago when it actually matters, there are tons of people taking a break or catching up on story. Only late bloomers are doing raids. It would have been the most effective as it MAY have actually effected que times. Trying on launch day when literally almost the entire world is going to be logging in on the same time makes no impact at all. It's like throwing a stuffed toy at a brick wall thinking its going to do damage.
    so, June 9th, which is.. wow.. 2 weeks ago.. would have been a better time to start this? might want to check when the thread was started by the OP then. looks like we started it in your ideal time frame. go figure.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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