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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeycht View Post
    It start in stormblood.
    And in heavensward that was 1 healer 3 dps (no tank) yet nobody complained about it.

    They don't want to make dungeons hard. So you don't need healer, or tank either.
    As long there is no hard hitting tank buster you can even do it with 4 dps if they know what trey are doing.

    Keep in mind there is people who struggle doing dungeons even with a normal team, wiping on simple pack or bosses, and they have to cater to them.

    Thanks for the faster queue for my healer btw. (I doubt it gonna do anything except the usual shortage of tank/healer because of new dps, usual)
    It's the sad reality in regards to people not being able to complete content, but that's because they don't want to learn. They want to have their hand held - and that's fine. Your veteran healers are going to be going away regardless since they've been jaded for 4 years and counting since Shadowbringers, so take it as you will.

    The only thing we can do here on the forums is simply scream into the void because it's where Yoshida told us our input would be brought - but where has that gotten us? Nowhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    It's the sad reality in regards to people not being able to complete content, but that's because they don't want to learn. They want to have their hand held - and that's fine. Your veteran healers are going to be going away regardless since they've been jaded for 4 years and counting since Shadowbringers, so take it as you will.

    The only thing we can do here on the forums is simply scream into the void because it's where Yoshida told us our input would be brought - but where has that gotten us? Nowhere.
    I doubt it gonna do anything tbh. Most people outside of the official forum don't care anyway and the forum is maybe 1% of playerbase.
    Most people are super casual who don't even know what gonna happen in DT and gonna enjoy the game as usual, playing healer if they want to. What happen in this thread is a drop in an ocean.
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    Clean everything before any nerf is my goal. No matter the time needed to reach the last hp and beat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    It's going to be hilarious when DT launches, there's no healer shortage, and people are confronted with the fact that social media is a small, self-selecting echo chamber.
    Do you really think that those supporting/participating in #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE think that day 1 of DT launch will crash due to a healer shortage? This isn't even what we want. I am quite positive queues will operate as normal with the exception of much longer DPS queues because everyone will be playing the new jobs. In which the case, you would want as many healers as possible queuing up. Have fun!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeycht View Post

    Thanks for the faster queue for my healer btw. (I doubt it gonna do anything except the usual shortage of tank/healer because of new dps, usual)
    These statements are funny to me because, 1. You actually don't understand how the algorithm works; and, 2. If you believe healers will not strike, then how will the queues be faster for your healer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Do you really think that those supporting/participating in #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE think that day 1 of DT launch will crash due to a healer shortage? This isn't even what we want. I am quite positive queues will operate as normal with the exception of much longer DPS queues because everyone will be playing the new jobs. In which the case, you would want as many healers as possible queuing up. Have fun!


    These statements are funny to me because, 1. You actually don't understand how the algorithm works; and, 2. If you believe healers will not strike, then how will the queues be faster for your healer?
    Sarcasm isn't your forte I guess. The queue will not be faster than usual as healer, it's instant most of the time anyway, especially in early x.0 patch; no I don't believe it will be faster.
    I don't need to understand how your algorithm works to know that every time there is new dps, the queue time for them is longer. (I don't even understand what algo you are talking about, and that won't change the fact that the number of people here who gonna really do it (not using healer because of the "healer problem") is probably gonna be low compare to the number of people who doesn't care)
    Most people are super casual and that "problem" doesn't affect them.
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    Last edited by Jeycht; 06-10-2024 at 03:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensui View Post
    Over the last 10 years playing this I've never been in a high end raid situation where healers aren't needed. But. Maybe you guys are playing a different game than I am.
    A job should be fun to play regardless of difficulty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensui View Post
    Over the last 10 years playing this I've never been in a high end raid situation where healers aren't needed. But. Maybe you guys are playing a different game than I am.
    Ok

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gi05HqdMSs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensui View Post
    Over the last 10 years playing this I've never been in a high end raid situation where healers aren't needed. But. Maybe you guys are playing a different game than I am.
    Your average Savage fight can be easily solohealed outside of minimum iLvl early clears, so I imagine it could be cleared completely without healers if the party was coordinated enough. Multiple Ultimates have been cleared without healers, TOP included - so there you don't even have the excuse of "old content we outgear + potency powercreep".

    Sure, your average PF group probably won't be clearing Savage without a healer but the fact that it's possible to either skip healers altogether or just have one doing a job meant for two people should be giving you pause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
    Hm.

    Can we get like a 'grumpy healer' discord going for making such groups easier to coordinate dc Region wide?
    I'm currently working on it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaLugria View Post
    I'm currently working on it!
    Cool. Do drop me an invite once it's presentable.


    EDIT: nvm should read threads completely before replying
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    Last edited by Sani2341; 06-10-2024 at 01:14 AM.
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    I would understand all the self heal for all the Jobs if the dungeons were really hard but they are not. Either the Heals from non-healers need to be adjusted/removed or the Dungeons need to hit and punish mistakes much harder. Healers are at this moment not needed for most Content.
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