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    Quote Originally Posted by Emilia- View Post
    It's so silly seeing try-hards trying to make the gameplay harder. Go play Elden Ring DLC instead if you want some challenge. Or find some hardcore Korean MMO.
    I simply cannot see why the devs would ever listen to you all. You're not the core of the universe just because you clear Ultimate and Savage content. Not everyone enjoys having to watch over all 4 corners of their 21:9 monitor just because someone wanted to have some more 'diversity' and 'engaging gameplay'. Not everyone have the time to train/play for 6h a day. Don't be selfish a-holes.

    This thread reminds me too much of SJW of the internet where everyone becomes a racists if their skin color is not 'melanin positive'. But in this case, as soon as someone does not agree with the manifesto, becomes an enemy and a traitor to whole FFXIV community...
    You guys really need to decide if the healers pointing out the problems with the role are clueless casuals who should have no say because they don't raid, or hardcore raiders who should have no say because they aren't the target audience of the majority of the game.

    Then again, using the term "SJW" unironically in the year 2024 says a lot, so...
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    Celes Miret-njer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emilia- View Post
    It's so silly seeing try-hards trying to make the gameplay harder. Go play Elden Ring DLC instead if you want some challenge. Or find some hardcore Korean MMO.
    I simply cannot see why the devs would ever listen to you all. You're not the core of the universe just because you clear Ultimate and Savage content. Not everyone enjoys having to watch over all 4 corners of their 21:9 monitor just because someone wanted to have some more 'diversity' and 'engaging gameplay'. Not everyone have the time to train/play for 6h a day. Don't be selfish a-holes.
    I don't do Savages or Ultimates, I am not a try-hard, and I want healers to be better and actually needed for their role: healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Actually, I've been looking at tanks and DPS another way recently, specifically how I know some who are pro-healer strike who plan on deliberately ignoring mechanics/eating as much damage as possible come Dawntrail to give the anti-strike "thanks for the instant queue" healers a hard time, lol. I mean, it's "no big deal" right? There's "nothing to complain about" right? (Alternately, you have the anti-strike tanks and DPS who want to give any unfortunate queuing pro-strikers "something engaging to do, just like you whined about".)

    As well, there's also pro-strike healers who are planning on continuing to queue, but are going to do exactly what the devs demand of them: Be green DPS only, refusing to toss out a single heal because tank and DPS self-sustain is "working as intended" and if a wipe happens then "ask for more self-heals then, at least they listen to *you*".
    Don't do this. If you're in content with randoms as a healer, do your job and heal. If you don't, you can be votekicked for being an 'obstruction to successful completion of duty'. And if SE finds out you were doing it intentionally/it was premeditated, then you'll get slapped with some kind of sanction for 'intentionally griefing'. You don't want a 3-day ban when DT only just came out, it's not worth it. If you're going to play healer in content and are participating in this 'strike', either do Trusts, or queue with friends

    Quote Originally Posted by Emilia- View Post
    It's so silly seeing try-hards trying to make the gameplay harder. Go play Elden Ring DLC instead if you want some challenge. Or find some hardcore Korean MMO.

    This thread reminds me too much of SJW of the internet where everyone becomes a racists if their skin color is not 'melanin positive'. But in this case, as soon as someone does not agree with the manifesto, becomes an enemy and a traitor to whole FFXIV community...
    We're not asking for Elden Ring. We're not asking for 'hardcore Korean MMO'. We're asking for Stormblood. Not sure how that's so difficult to understand

    I think it says more about you than it does about anyone participating in this thread that you'd instantly jump to a comparison with SJWs
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Don't do this. If you're in content with randoms as a healer, do your job and heal. If you don't, you can be votekicked for being an 'obstruction to successful completion of duty'. And if SE finds out you were doing it intentionally/it was premeditated, then you'll get slapped with some kind of sanction for 'intentionally griefing'. You don't want a 3-day ban when DT only just came out, it's not worth it. If you're going to play healer in content and are participating in this 'strike', either do Trusts, or queue with friends
    That's the part I'm hoping will dissuade anyone from actually trying these tactics, that being banned during an expansion drop isn't worth it, on top of how as someone else put it "they're taking it out on the wrong people". But ultimately there's no controlling other people's actions, and maybe for some, getting banned (or even quitting) is a better choice because they already feel the strike is meaningless, especially with so many people on the forums/social media/in-game already blowing it off as just drama/memes/doomed. Even if nothing comes of their supposed threats to grief, the fact that some would even humor the idea on the cusp of Dawntrail's release still says a lot about the thought process some people are having that "no FF14 > than continuing to heal in FF14".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Review Aidorouge's posts over the last few pages about what they've heard people saying they will do in-game.
    Indeed, *I'm* the one that brought it up based on things I saw in chat, TaleraRistain is not the messenger anyone should be shooting or accusing of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    That's the part I'm hoping will dissuade anyone from actually trying these tactics, that being banned during an expansion drop isn't worth it, on top of how as someone else put it "they're taking it out on the wrong people". But ultimately there's no controlling other people's actions, and maybe for some, getting banned (or even quitting) is a better choice because they already feel the strike is meaningless, especially with so many people on the forums/social media/in-game already blowing it off as just drama/memes/doomed. Even if nothing comes of their supposed threats to grief, the fact that some would even humor the idea on the cusp of Dawntrail's release still says a lot about the thought process some people are having that "no FF14 > than continuing to heal in FF14".

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    Indeed, *I'm* the one that brought it up based on things I saw in chat, TaleraRistain is not the messenger anyone should be shooting or accusing of things.
    basically, its a garbage move and attitude by someone who was unlikely to have been a good healer in the first place. if they get to eat a ban, they deserve it and I would hope its permanent.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    I've seen almost nobody who actually talks about the state of healers have anything positive say about it, so I feel like that's a better indicator of how this vaunted "majority" feels.
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    Many directions I thought the strike discourse would go

    “You are griefing by playing PCT in DT if you used to be a healer main” is not one of them
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Many directions I thought the strike discourse would go

    “You are griefing by playing PCT in DT if you used to be a healer main” is not one of them
    ''please be quiet and enjoy your lobotomy dps rotation whilst I get to have fun'' - the average dps main when healers ask for more

    ''if you don't like it, just play something el- wait I didn't mean it, PLEASE, what about my queues!? You're being so selfish!'' - the average non-healer player when we actually take that advice
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