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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Mao is one of those peoples. Mao is old and has Parkinson's Disease. Mao knows there will come a time when Mao will no longer be able to play game. This makes Mao sad. For now though, Mao oks because trusts and difficulty selection for MSQ lets Mao be able to still play. Mao nots want MSQ and dungeons tied to MSQ to be turned into DDR style twitch fests. On other claw, Mao nots want see higher levels of contents likes raids and Savage made easy. Is should be hard things to do for young healthy peoples whats has the skills to do thems. Mao nots mind nots being able do raids and Savage. Mao has other things like the gatherings that Mao likes. The gatherings restricted by MSQ though so if MSQ gets too hard, Mao no can even do the gatherings anymore. Mao sad.
    Oh Mao... I didn't know. I'm so sorry. May that day be many years away because you are one of the bright lights on these forums.

    No one wants the difficulty raised to the point where some people can't play. From what I can discern, the general consensus is healers just don't want so much of the game to be mindless.

    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    I am concerned about it. And I've cancelled my sub and pre-order because I have no desire to continue to give my money to a company that doesn't want to provide an engaging gameplay experience.

    I am that concerned, that I logged into the official forums for the first time to show my support.
    Thank you for your support and I'm sorry to see you go even though I understand the reason. May you find your adventure on another game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    All this madness here made me think I should Level first my White Mage and then all other Healers. :P
    That sounds like a great idea! Go ahead and level all the healers, then come back and let us know your thoughts.
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    Last edited by Kacho_Nacho; 06-21-2024 at 01:34 PM.

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    DiznypKC's Avatar
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    Tehryn Alexandyr
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by 1313 View Post
    This is not an issue anyone needs to be concerned about, this is just a big meme for everyone to laugh at.
    There appears to be some big feelings over people making decisions for themselves based on their experiences in a video game. We all have big feelings sometimes and that’s okay. But we can’t control the actions and decisions of other people. All we can do is try to be decent people.

    Okay, good talk. Now go get you some froyo or a cookie.
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    Ozuma Kuma
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Even though I'm not really agreeing with this strike or do I expect much outcome before 8.0 where they say they're going to re-examine job identity.

    I am impressed at how big of a conversation this has created. Some of the arguments make really well good points. Hopefully they can interpret the feedback in way we can make good middle ground that works for everyone. I don't believe in making the roles very complex purely just for hardcore content, it needs to work for casual content as much as, that bit is crucial for me at least.
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by OzumaKuma View Post
    Even though I'm not really agreeing with this strike or do I expect much outcome before 8.0 where they say they're going to re-examine job identity.

    I am impressed at how big of a conversation this has created. Some of the arguments make really well good points. Hopefully they can interpret the feedback in way we can make good middle ground that works for everyone. I don't believe in making the roles very complex purely just for hardcore content, it needs to work for casual content as much as, that bit is crucial for me at least.
    A middle ground wouldn't be that hard to reach either. Just a couple extra DPS spells and maybe a minor bit of interaction like a proc and you're good to go. And anyone not comfortable doing DPS as a healer could just... not use the new buttons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzumaKuma View Post
    Even though I'm not really agreeing with this strike or do I expect much outcome before 8.0 where they say they're going to re-examine job identity.

    I am impressed at how big of a conversation this has created. Some of the arguments make really well good points. Hopefully they can interpret the feedback in way we can make good middle ground that works for everyone. I don't believe in making the roles very complex purely just for hardcore content, it needs to work for casual content as much as, that bit is crucial for me at least.
    We shall see whether 8.0 will deliver Nirvana, Paradise, Heaven. We have our first test in just a week (and a day) when we can all get to experience the Expert dungeons.

    Apparently, it's "expert" for real this time. We will soon see if it's just another exaggeration in the long string of overpromises.
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    Rad Calidum
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    You know it occurs to me that the devs already have multiple solutions to the issues in the game. What do I mean?

    Well sage for example. Double eukrasian dyskrasia’s potency and halve its duration. Reduce psyche’s cooldown to 20 seconds, let me store two charges, and reduce its potency to compensate.

    SCH- make baneful impaction a regular spell, make it last 12 seconds, and (if they want to go crazy) make ED free during chain strat.

    WHM- make glare 4 its own button, give me one use of it for every 3 G3 casts, grant me 3 charges upon using presence. While we’re at it give Dia a cast time and throw in thundercloud.

    AST- idfk.

    Do above and make each fight’s damage profile similar to barbarricia’s and everyone wins. The people who like easy content needn’t try harder to do normal. The people who do normal but want it to be more engaging have more to optimize. The people who want healers to heal more have their wish as well.

    Everything I’ve suggested literally already exists in the game’s code. Literally.
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    Gartred Runecaster
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    Diabolos
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SargeTheSeagull View Post
    SCH- make baneful impaction a regular spell, make it last 12 seconds, and (if they want to go crazy) make ED free during chain strat.
    Sounds like turning Energy Drain into Continuation. I'd be all for that. It sounds really fun to be weaving energy drains for 10 seconds.
    Not sure about the numbers off the top of my head, but that might actually give a normal rotational use for Ruin 2 as it gives you two weaving spots as opposed to Broil's 1.
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    Miau Miau
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    Gilgamesh
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GartredZW View Post
    Sounds like turning Energy Drain into Continuation.
    Give SCH a gun. Do it. What's the worst that could happen.
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    Percibel Theren
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by UnconfirmedCat View Post
    Give SCH a gun. Do it. What's the worst that could happen.
    You get Sage!
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    Stabby-Chan's Avatar
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    Mia Redburn
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Hello everyone!
    Long time since I've posted here.

    I am a White Mage main and I will not be joining the Healer's Strike!

    My reasons are stated below:

    1) History:

    Since Stormblood Days, there have been EoE (End of Expansion) Time Attack tournaments hosted by several FCs working together from different worlds. The fastest clear times came from One Tank, and three DPS. The healer would be exchanged for a Red Mage.

    2) Perspective:

    In order to run a dungeon with One Tank and Three DPS, the players require skill along with gear that is higher than the typical average found in roulette queues. These runs are the polar opposite of "Minimum iLVL" runs.

    Remember how iLvL works:

    The maximum iLvL of the previous expansion becomes the Minimum iLvL required to attempt the final leveling dungeon of the next expansion. The first two leveling dungeons of a new expansion to players coming out with BiS gear and Max iLvL of the previous expansion are ridiculously easy.

    3) Jumping the Gun

    An entire healer's strike was started due to let me get this right, a person who cleared a Leveling Dungeon, you know... the easiest thing this game has to offer compared to other content...

    ..and yet when an Ultimate Clear came from not using Healers....where was the healers strike for that? Oh right! Its optional content and it's a minority so no strike came. Do you expect a strike to come from the actions of players in Leveling Dungeons?

    I know when I have maximum iLvL for a dungeon along with Food + Potions done right, healers can survive Tank Busters in Leveling Dungeons. Does that Invalidate Tanks? Not really.

    4) DawnTrail

    New Expansion brings back plenty of players who want to play through the story. Plenty of work out there for healers. Enjoy the story and have fun!


    If this was consistent among all content the game has to offer and it being super common to not need healers for anything, then I would complain. Not going to join a strike for something that has existed since Stormblood Days among the Elite Community and their friends in both, Type-0 and Type-1 Speedruns.
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