#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[XiaoShengwu]

We actively want to play healers. The problem is that that's not what we've been doing for years now. We're playing DPS roles (with both the lowest DPS and the most boring "rotations") that also have massive healing ability that just flat-out isn't being used. This is verifiable across all levels of content and the receipts have been posted throughout this thread. And we don't like it, so we're not going to do it anymore.

It is Square Enix that's "hurting" the game - and by extension, you - by making the healing role not revolve around healing.

[lilwitch]

I love how the argument is now becoming "but if you don't play a role you're dissatisfied with it ruins everyone else's game!"

Why should we play a role we're dissatisfied with?

That's the essence of this "strike." People are making this out to be us wanting to intentionally hurt the community. This isn't true. We're just collectively refusing to settle for a boring, mediocre job when it could be so much better, and are hoping (probably against hope to be honest) that the attention this movement gets will make devs think more about getting us back into a legitimate healing role.

We actively want to play healers. The problem is that that's not what we've been doing for years now. We're playing DPS roles (with both the lowest DPS and the most boring "rotations") that also have massive healing ability that just flat-out isn't being used. This is verifiable across all levels of content and the receipts have been posted throughout this thread. And we don't like it, so we're not going to do it anymore.

It is Square Enix that's "hurting" the game - and by extension, you -

This was a reasonable take up until blaming literally everyone who doesn't agree with you, which is plainly ridiculous.

I get that you non-healer-mains are upset that this is getting attention, and that Square Enix's design philosophy towards healers has pushed us to the point of taking an action that can have negative repercussions for you. But you do not get to decide for us. We are not your monkeys, and the fact that healers are subject to this sort of attitude in the first place shows how devalued the healer role has become in this game.

Ya, other ppl don't get to decide what class u play.
But you don't get to speak for me either. I sorely miss having more engaging decisions (and selene). I don't want less dps, I want less homogenization. I miss cleric stance.

I also unsubbed for long periods of time when I wasn't enjoying the game (and deleted my main). Active subscription count is the only thing SE really cares about and staying subbed while complaining on the forums doesn't constitute a strike, since queue times haven't changed. So it's simply loud minority compared to rest of XIV's population. Which okay, protest all you want, but don't also claim that anyone who doesn't agree with your specific take is hurting the role wtf.

Us vs them is stupid

[Amity_Roji]

This was a reasonable take up until blaming literally everyone who doesn't agree with you, which is plainly ridiculous.

I didn't do that. I blamed Square Enix. The part you later quote was me countering several non-healer individuals who had a "stop ruining my game!" attitude towards this movement. I am not blaming them for the current state of healers in any way - I'm saying that their attitudes toward our dissatisfaction is unacceptable.

Ya, other ppl don't get to decide what class u play.
But you don't get to speak for me either.

I don't recall doing so? My use of the collective "we" was intended to be very general, not a literal "every healer thinks this."

don't also claim that anyone who doesn't agree with your specific take is hurting the role wtf.

I didn't do that. Again, I pretty clearly state that Square Enix's design philosophy is what's hurting the role.

Us vs them is stupid

Agreed - so why are people coming in here and making it that, necessitating my refutation of their poor arguments?

[lilwitch]

I didn't do that. I blamed Square Enix. The part you later quote was me countering several non-healer individuals who had a "stop ruining my game!" attitude towards this movement. I am not blaming them for the current state of healers in any way - I'm saying that their attitudes toward our dissatisfaction is unacceptable.

That was how it read to me, but I'll apologize since you've clarified it. Sorry, lala.

[Supersnow845]

You notice the healer forum contracting all the time

In SB and ShB I used to be dozens of people coming in and out and discussing openly, these days it’s basically the same 5 people who still haven’t given up soapboxing or just enjoying arguing (I’m one of these)

People are abandoning the role, unless you think the entire games collective healer role is me aravell, Ty, forsaken, Reiner and our army of alts

I watched it... And everyone is conviently glossing over that there was a Red Mage, who's dual casting vercure potency has ALWAYS been op since it released. And they were playing MONTHS OLD test build.... NOTHING in that dungeon potency wise may be that way come launch, its likely those dungeon mobs could be adjusted and hit harder.
While I agree that healer kits need adjustment for more dps, this weeping and gnashing of teeth is going to accomplish nothing. Why? There are far more ALL AROUNDERS who play EVERYTHING and have 3 main jobs that will happily step up and fill in any "striking" healer. Not to mention enough people will be competent enough to pick up healer jobs and learn them, coupled with the Trust system, sorry guys your healer strike will DO NOTHING. Once you leave out of this forum and go into other areas where FFXIV is discussed INCLUDING IN GAME, the vast majority of healers are not going to strike at all.

Notice even by your own implication Omni mains don’t pick healer first, they fill it out of necessity

[KitiaraIornsight]

You notice the healer forum contracting all the time

In SB and ShB I used to be dozens of people coming in and out and discussing openly, these days it’s basically the same 5 people who still haven’t given up soapboxing or just enjoying arguing (I’m one of these)

People are abandoning the role, unless you think the entire games collective healer role is me aravell, Ty, forsaken, Reiner and our army of alts



Notice even by your own implication Omni mains don’t pick healer first, they fill it out of necessity

uh no, you are wrong, I know a ton of healer mains. They aren't going to strike. I've been playing this game since beta. We have a massive influx of new players from xbox, returning players from breaks. There will be plenty of healers in the game as always. People are not abandoning the role at the rate you claim, if that was the case there would be issues period getting in to all content for both tanks AND dps and that's not the case, queue times for content are unchanged.

[GrimGale]

uh no, you are wrong, I know a ton of healer mains. They aren't going to strike. I've been playing this game since beta. We have a massive influx of new players from xbox, returning players from breaks. There will be plenty of healers in the game as always. People are not abandoning the role at the rate you claim, if that was the case there would be issues period getting in to all content for both tanks AND dps and that's not the case, queue times for content are unchanged.

Good because I am going DPS this time after years leveling my healers

[Ramiee]

Then I don't see this strike having much weight at all. If you're really passionate about wanting said healer changes, then something's gotta give. That means you sacrificing your means of playing FF14. Otherwise you'll have to deal with no fundamental changes for a long LONG time. The proposed healer changes in the OP are not only a healer change, but a change to overall battle content and reward structure design as well. It would be an absolutely massive undertaking for SE to properly redesign under the conditions set forth by OP.

Nah it'll send a message remember that the development team has begged people to try healer before when there was a lack of healers. If healer mains start playing other roles the begging will come back.

[Ramiee]

The "give" is that we're not playing a Healer role - which is going to be in high demand in a week and change. You'll still have Healers, but they may not be that good depending on the skill level of your healer. Let alone, it's not the first time we've had instant changes in a whole patch. Warrior is the only job that has gotten ability changes mid-expansion, namely to Shake it Off. PLD got reworked to fit the WAR paradigm that has cannibalized everything a Tank represents. If they're going to change anything? They need to start with healers since they've been hurt the most by the changes since Shadowbringers.

A bit off topic but god damn DRK has suffered so hard, the MP gen looks fcked now. It also lacking much self healing is going to be extremely noticeable we might see DRK popping rampart just for the hp recovery boost for draining in stuff like criterion.

[Ramiee]

uh no, you are wrong, I know a ton of healer mains. They aren't going to strike. I've been playing this game since beta. We have a massive influx of new players from xbox, returning players from breaks. There will be plenty of healers in the game as always. People are not abandoning the role at the rate you claim, if that was the case there would be issues period getting in to all content for both tanks AND dps and that's not the case, queue times for content are unchanged.

Tell them thanks for playing the shitty role while I get to have fun. Thanks to the new Xbox friends for also making this sacrifice I'll have you in my heart when I oGCD heal and do your job for you while also getting a full DPS rotation and not spam 1 button. Thank you so much!