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    I also find it surprising that people don't take more issues with the actual heals too. Those are pretty boring in their own right, mostly amounting to "Hit oGCD before/after damage occurs" with maybe a succor or a medica 2 if it's really spicy damage. My only other healing experience is WoW and oh buddy are those healing kits far more involved (and used far more cause there's more damage). Compare that to a Preservation Evoker:



    Night and day. And mind that in high end WoW content, you HAVE to make full use of your abilities to meet healing requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I also find it surprising that people don't take more issues with the actual heals too. Those are pretty boring in their own right, mostly amounting to "Hit oGCD before/after damage occurs" with maybe a succor or a medica 2 if it's really spicy damage. My only other healing experience is WoW and oh buddy are those healing kits far more involved (and used far more cause there's more damage). Compare that to a Preservation Evoker:



    Night and day. And mind that in high end WoW content, you HAVE to make full use of your abilities to meet healing requirements.
    WoW healing is amazing and I miss it. Too bad WoW is worse in almost every other aspect. I also don't think the FFXIV server tick is fast enough for healing to ever feel as satisfying and responsive.

    Hell this game doesn't even support mouse over healing properly. You either have to use clunky macros, or download sketchy plugins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
    Yes, it's definitely vitriolic in many places outside of this thread. I feel like that could change if efforts at outreach and communication were made, but who knows.
    The official FF forums is exactly the place for outreach and communication. Outreach to other places would be nice (though I can completely understand why people don't feel like placing themselves in another position where they'll be attacked over the strike, that happens enough in this thread already, and healers don't have endless energy and patience to deal with that), but I strongly disagree with the suggestion that healers that joined this thread are in any way responsible for toxic responses somewhere else.
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  4. 06-20-2024 02:41 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
    I agree. Mentioning it (almost) anywhere else has gotten "interesting" reactions.

    Although, I've received rather hostile reactions on this thread, too, even though I like the topic. I suppose people are just angry and lashing out, even regardless of whether someone supports the idea.
    Yep, I popped into an r/ffxiv thread when someone in a sub-comment asked about the strike and the individual had previously been given several false or disingenuous replies. After a sincere attempt was made to be as neutral and respectful to educate the individual on the variety of issues that are part of the strike, I was told I'm wrong about the state of healing, my opinion and personal preferences on healing doesn't matter because I'm trying to exclude casuals, that I should "just play Savage", and finally that I should unsub if I don't like it.

    The attitudes of the wider FFXIV community to being anti-constructive criticism isn't new, but by golly is it stale and exhausting at this point.
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  6. 06-20-2024 02:57 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    So I think those are core issues with the strike. But, as an awareness-raising tool it's been an A+ effort. I'd have a hard time believing that the Dev's are unaware of this thread at this point.
    Multiple streamers, online articles, multiplatform discussions and at least JP/NA/EU involvement. It would be pretty hard to not hear about it.

    Naysayers can say it won't do anything, maybe it won't, but I'd say it's one of the largest attempt at a change request yet. In in end at least we can say we tried everything we could to get our point across, even through some ridiculous backlash. After that, it's in the devs hands. Personally, i'll be satisfied either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
    I feel like what is most worrying are the people (especially progression groups) saying they are (or will, with the new Dawntrail updates) blacklist people showing support for this thread. I feel that could be at least a little concerning for anyone who doesn't have a solid group of friends to play with yet.
    I can't blame them honestly.
    If people wants to prog a raid they might not want someone who might not (enjoy) take their role seriously if they aren't satisfied with what they currently got to play with.
    They might see a Healer who support the strike (showing they aren't happy with healers) as a reliability in the group dynamic.
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