#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Supersnow845]

I watched the video, it's well articulated and showed objectivity in regards of the thread and idea of the strike. He didn't agree with 2-3 things but didn't jump straight with "haha healers cry, stupid strike" etc. like most creators have done.

I don’t feel like any of the creators themselves have dismissed it outright (except maybe Loki) they all seem to agree with the premise of the strike they just disagree with if the situation is as severe as we are making it out to be

I don’t think any content creator (again except Loki because I genuinely can’t sit through his videos so I don’t know) has called the strike stupid. The chat of the the YouTubers seem to lean positive once you get past the “lol why they reeing about xeno dungeon”

[HighlanderClone]

My deaths in ShB dungeons far outnumber my deaths in any dungeon up to SB.

but to argue the difficulty spike from ARR to EW isn't massive, it doesn't make sense to me.

Again it's because a lot of those old content were nerfed...........

[Crushnight]

Not everything is just people remembering things wrongly lol.

The wipe rates in normal content were just far higher back then. I don't think you've ever experienced an instance timeout in an alliance raid have you?

Wiping city was called that for a reason, there was one time it was so bad that we had 8 mins left on timer and on last boss when everyone but me(sch) and main tank(Drk) died, it was post add phase and I just went fuck this i ain’t wiping again, so me and that Drk did 40% of that boss hp ourselves and cleared the instance.

Neither of us took any unnecessary damage but 22 other people certainly did, they were demanding we wipe and our rebuttal was you couldn’t dodge it the 1st 10x why the hell should we wipe so you can get hit another 10 more costing us the win due to timeout.

[SNUBBIRTH23]

Over Half my join ins during Stormblood were T.G Cid pre nerf. I am convinced they nerfed him just because the rage quit numbers were astronomical.

[Kaixern]

Over Half my join ins during Stormblood were T.G Cid pre nerf. I am convinced they nerfed him just because the rage quit numbers were astronomical.

Even to this day when i do the 24 man raid roulette, if i tag the orbonne monastery, i sometimes have between 4/5 people quitting the raid at the start, it's a bit sad
(Sorry for the subject derailment, back to the healers)

[Reinha]

The healer's primary job is to heal unavoidable damage like boss autoattacks, tankbusters and raidwide aoes. That is why they are in the trinity, because tanks and dps will die without someone healing that damage. Or at least they should die.

[Erzaa]

The healer's primary job is to heal unavoidable damage like boss autoattacks, tankbusters and raidwide aoes. That is why they are in the trinity, because tanks and dps will die without someone healing that damage. Or at least they should die.

That's also part of the job. Or do you expect everyone to know everything, at all times, regardless of how many times they've done it, or how long since they've done the instance?

Or perhaps in your mind, someone getting hit by something avoidable, they're on their own then? Sucks to be them? How dare they don't know every mechanic, at every moment it's going to hit?

Healers exist to alleviate mistakes. If it was only for tankbusters and raidwides and nothing else, then dump the healers entirely, get them out of the game, and just give every job the ability to press to heal themselves every time the raidwide or tankbuster happens, then if they make avoidable mistakes, they die.

[Reinha]

That's also part of the job. Or do you expect everyone to know everything, at all times, regardless of how many times they've done it, or how long since they've done the instance?

Or perhaps in your mind, someone getting hit by something avoidable, they're on their own then? Sucks to be them? How dare they don't know every mechanic, at every moment it's going to hit?

Healers exist to alleviate mistakes. If it was only for tankbusters and raidwides and nothing else, then dump the healers entirely, get them out of the game, and just give every job the ability to press to heal themselves every time the raidwide or tankbuster happens, then if they make avoidable mistakes, they die.

What is this strawmanning? The healer's primary job is to heal unavoidable damage, fixing mistakes only comes after you've made sure the tank is not dying to autos and the team is topped up and shielded for major aoes. Healers exist to heal unavoidable damage first, and to fix mistakes second.

If you want to play a non-trinity game where everyone heals themselves, they exist out there, but FFXIV is not one of them.

[SamLeens]

What is this strawmanning? The healer's primary job is to heal unavoidable damage, fixing mistakes only comes after you've made sure the tank is not dying to autos and the team is topped up and shielded for major aoes. Healers exist to heal unavoidable damage first, and to fix mistakes second.

If you want to play a non-trinity game where everyone heals themselves, they exist out there, but FFXIV is not one of them.

One person interprets the healers and the tasks involved. has their own idea of what they want and dont want to do as a healer, and then someone comes along and writes twice, once wasn't enough, that it has to be so and so.

why discuss at all if you know best anyway? and because it's good to say things twice, here again. since you know best anyway, you don't need to discuss anymore.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

If you want healer to be a triage role only... where's the triage and what exactly do we do when not triage-ing?

Nowadays people just die when they make a mistake, which also means healing them is largely pointless since they just die anyway, a focus on triage is incompatible with the current fight design. Even if they change this in Dawntrail, old content is supposed to be Evergreen. In high end duties the body checks mean you can't even raise.