#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Supersnow845]

Also a lot of us who haven’t quit haven’t quit because we like other parts of the game and just don’t like healing

Call my opinion on healers wishy washy if you want that I’m not committed enough to nuke my account to send a message on healers but I genuinely enjoy other parts of the game

I love making lore for my character, I love playing with my friends, I love most of the MSQ, I like a lot of the second life elements I just don’t like healer design

So I’m happy to continue enjoying the game on PCT and throw my support behind this because it’s probably between me, Ty and Aravell for “has provided the most feedback on healers” across the entire forums and I’m tired

[ForsakenRoe]

because it’s probably between me, Ty and Aravell for “has provided the most feedback on healers” across the entire forums and I’m tired

top 10 anime betrayals /s

[Aravell]

If people quit SE will notice how the active players drops, indicating that more and more people are finding FFXIV not up to par when it comes to choices of other games.
Where if people keep playing but another job it'll show that people still finds the game itself good enough to keep them playing.
And depending on actually how many people change a job or not the numbers might not shift enough for SE to take it as a sign of "something wrong with this job".
Where if people just stop playing it's a clear sign that "people are leaving" and might try find solutions to make the game "better" to keep people from leaving.

This is my take at least.

Except, again, you're not asked why you're leaving. If they see subs drop and try and take action, it's a shot in the dark because people who have unsubbed aren't asked for feedback and cannot provide feedback through official means.

But if people simply just don't play healer in queues instead, it becomes very obvious that the problem lies with healers. They then have a clear point of reference when taking action.

Unsubbing is only valid if the end goal is to attack the wallet. You do not need to unsub to attack the metrics, in fact, attacking the metrics is easier if you are subbed.

Take relics for example, if someone unsubs over it, they are taken out of the maximum of the participation numbers, but if someone is subbed and doesn't engage with it, they're taken out of the number of participants. The latter is more damaging to the metrics while the former helps the metrics look better.

It's also worth noting that it's a lot harder to entice people who leave the game to come back than it is to hold onto people who are dissatisfied by appeasing them.

And the phrase "vote with your wallet / hitting them in the wallet" probably comes from how SE is still a company and the main goal of a company is to earn money.
So money might speak louder in those situations.

Here you fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of the strike. We do not care about the company, we do not want to engage with the company, we want to engage with the DEV TEAM, and hitting their metrics is the best way to get there.

[Evergrey]

Except, again, you're not asked why you're leaving. If they see subs drop and try and take action, it's a shot in the dark because people who have unsubbed aren't asked for feedback and cannot provide feedback through official means.

But if people simply just don't play healer in queues instead, it becomes very obvious that the problem lies with healers. They then have a clear point of reference when taking action.

Unsubbing is only valid if the end goal is to attack the wallet. You do not need to unsub to attack the metrics, in fact, attacking the metrics is easier if you are subbed.

Take relics for example, if someone unsubs over it, they are taken out of the maximum of the participation numbers, but if someone is subbed and doesn't engage with it, they're taken out of the number of participants. The latter is more damaging to the metrics while the former helps the metrics look better.

It's also worth noting that it's a lot harder to entice people who leave the game to come back than it is to hold onto people who are dissatisfied by appeasing them.

People keep saying that SE has ignored feedback for years.
So if people, like right now, show how upset they are about it and then the numbers of active players starts dropping around the same time.
Maybe someone could put 1 and 1 together and figure out that "Maybe people are so unhappy that they rather find something else to spend their money and time on."

[Kazmarek]

Here you fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of the strike. We do not care about the company, we do not want to engage with the company, we want to engage with the DEV TEAM, and hitting their metrics is the best way to get there.

Who do you think is in charge of the dev team?

[Evergrey]

Here you fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of the strike. We do not care about the company, we do not want to engage with the company, we want to engage with the DEV TEAM, and hitting their metrics is the best way to get there.

I never misunderstood the purpose of the Strike.
I simply answered your comment of "Maybe explain why quitting the game..." and then further gave my own thoughts of why people might bring up the "Vote with money".
"My take" is simply how I look at what people might mean.
Everyone has a take on things, like just now how your take was that I had misunderstood things.

[4clubbedace]

Except, again, you're not asked why you're leaving. If they see subs drop and try and take action, it's a shot in the dark because people who have unsubbed aren't asked for feedback and cannot provide feedback through official means.

But if people simply just don't play healer in queues instead, it becomes very obvious that the problem lies with healers. They then have a clear point of reference when taking action.

Unsubbing is only valid if the end goal is to attack the wallet. You do not need to unsub to attack the metrics, in fact, attacking the metrics is easier if you are subbed.

Take relics for example, if someone unsubs over it, they are taken out of the maximum of the participation numbers, but if someone is subbed and doesn't engage with it, they're taken out of the number of participants. The latter is more damaging to the metrics while the former helps the metrics look better.

It's also worth noting that it's a lot harder to entice people who leave the game to come back than it is to hold onto people who are dissatisfied by appeasing them.



Here you fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of the strike. We do not care about the company, we do not want to engage with the company, we want to engage with the DEV TEAM, and hitting their metrics is the best way to get there.

youre not considerign that if queue is takin too long, ssomeone who doesnt play healer an just change to healer to move along quicker, ive done this before, many have done this before,

continueing to give the developers money when youre unhappy wont actually do anything.

Having “Expert” roulette dungeons in duty finder be at minimum item level would be a step in the right direction.

what does this do, all this means is that for a lot of people there is no reason for ilvl geear progression, whicch is an entirely different discussion

[aiqa]

youre not considerign that if queue is takin too long, ssomeone who doesnt play healer an just change to healer to move along quicker, ive done this before, many have done this before,

continueing to give the developers money when youre unhappy wont actually do anything.

Is "strike" really such a difficult concept to understand. A strike looks to affect things without quitting (either your job or a game).

And you can't decide of the strike is going to do anything or not, that is up to the devs. Why would anyone believe your predictions?

[4clubbedace]

Is "strike" really such a difficult concept to understand. A strike looks to affect things without quitting (either your job or a game).

And you can't decide of the strike is going to do anything or not, that is up to the devs. Why would anyone believe your predictions?

because they ccan do nothing about it and youre still giving them money, youre still playing the game, in content where skill doesnt matter anyways like df people will just switch to healer for the roulette anyways

DF might matter, because thats where healing can be hard, but again, how many people witll switch just from lack of competition

when union mmembers have a strike at work they dont go to work , when theres a boycott for a company they dont buy their products

Regardless of what freecure enjoyers will say, one button rotations are stupid as hell and all the healers need some sort of rework to their dps kits. 5 dot scholar was peak healer design

im inclined to agree but i doubt thatll ever com back unless they fix the buff/debuff limit

[aiqa]

because they ccan do nothing about it and youre still giving them money, youre still playing the game, in content where skill doesnt matter anyways like df people will just switch to healer for the roulette anyways

DF might matter, because thats where healing can be hard, but again, how many people witll switch just from lack of competition

when union mmembers have a strike at work they dont go to work , when theres a boycott for a company they dont buy their products

I see the answer to my question is a firm "yes". This is not a boycot. And the concept of a strike more ambiguous, it doesn't require formal system with unions and such. If I go on a food strike, I don't have to join a union.

And again, you are not the person that gets to decide "what will happen". The strike is sending a message already, that's working as intended. And it's reaching people outside of the forums. I've seen many people do their first ever post in this thread.