#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Summersong]

So the Heal Role wants to dps by adding more button bloat that will have an effect to players on a controller that already have alot to press, interesting :3
I don't recall Heal based characters throughout the FF series having alot of options to dealing damage apart from Holy and uniqueness like Rosa's status arrows in IV.

Healer: I want to dps but I also want warrior reworked to so it self heals less which means I need to heal but idk how to because I want to 2-1-1-1 :'( How dare other Jobs have fun with self heals.
Tank: Me protecc, dw i got myself covered :3 stronk independent tank needs no healer.

The Fix, give you a combo cast that ends with some unique effect , WHM causing a aoe healing pulse or something around the mob, or Ofc make all the 'Story' content tuned so people take way more damage, then It's all up to the healer to deal with it <3
then complain when you have to heal.

We'd like to either have our healing skills be necessary, engaging and frequently used or have some of them replaced with dps skills. A role should not be expected to press one button for over 50% of the fight during all content up to and including Savage.
We do not want to reduce the utility of other classes as long as their utility is not eroding our role in the party. The game must be balanced to required both, and if that cannot be done then the healer role should be the one to heal.

[Rehayem]

Just a reminder SE themselves tells people to come to forums to leave feedback and suggestions.

[KageTokage]

Minor feedback to this, I think a better example of homogenization is just how similar SCH and SGE are. They go so far as to copy aetherflow and add analogs to other SCH abilities.

It's kind of awkward how tacked on Kardia feels to make it "unique" compared to SGE when in reality all it is is a glorified HoT that's restricted to a single player.

I appreciate their capstone ability in DT at least plays off of it a little further by extending the heals to the entire party, but I feel like they could've gone even harder on making it a defining gimmick for them.

[Supersnow845]

It's kind of awkward how tacked on Kardia feels to make it "unique" compared to SGE when in reality all it is is a glorified HoT that's restricted to a single player.

I appreciate their capstone ability in DT at least plays off of it a little further by extending the heals to the entire party, but I feel like they could've gone even harder on making it a defining gimmick for them.

Philosophia doesn’t even interact with kardia

It just gives everyone a seperate buff that procs off ANY spell (yes including diagnosis)

The person with kardia will get both buffs and soteria can’t buff the philosophia buff

[KisaiTenshi]

Minor feedback to this, I think a better example of homogenization is just how similar SCH and SGE are. They go so far as to copy aetherflow and add analogs to other SCH abilities.

White Mage and Astrologian literately overlap every just about every skill involving healing. Back when AST could do shields, they either overlapped 100 percent with White mage or 100 percent with Scholar. It made them far more useful to balance out having one healer do heals and one doing shields. Then they decided AST wasn't white mage enough and took AST's shields away, leaving regen, making them play exactly the same as white mage. Hence AST is basically "weaker white mage with a card buff mechanic" instead of "Astral (regen)/Umbral(shield)" Maybe if the developers put more thought into it they would have realized this. With removing Selene from Scholar, that also nerfed Scholar's ability to be "Heal/Shield" or "Buff/Shield"

Like if I were to suggest a "rework" of just the healer role, I would make sure that there isn't a single "exactly the same" skill between them. This is only one suggestion

WHM - Pure Heals, all oGCD casts. Regen is automatically applied by proc. Only Dia and Holy is on GCD. "Stone" is oGCD that recast time goes up with more players in the party.

SCH - Pure Shields, all oGCD casts. The scholar gets three faries (EOS, Selene and Seraph) with EOS casting healing automatically, Selene casting Regen automatically, and Seraph casting both at half potency. The Scholar themselves cast only DoT's, Debuffs or Buffs (eg shields), all the healing is done by the fairy.

AST - Half shields, half Heals. Have the Astrologian select the "Astral" or "Umbral" deck, with one being regen, the other being shield. Remove "Benefic and Benefic 2" entirely and replace with GCD Aspected Benefic, and GCD Aspected Helios like how they originally worked. Same as WHM, Combust as Gravity are GCD but Malefic is oGCD that recast increases with more players in the party.

SGE - All "DPS" actions are GCD that redirect damage into health to the party (eg an 8 member party gets 12.5% each). Remove Diagnosis and Prognosis as GCD equivalents to Cure/Benefic and Medica/Helios.


Then to fix the tanks, do exactly the same to the self-heals. All oGCD, recast increases with more players in party. DPS self-heals are oGCD recasts that increase with more players in the party. Summoner and Red mage heals and revives have longer recasts with more players in the party. Do the same for potion recasts.

The idea being "not doing your role" is penalized in time the more players there are.

[Ramiee]

It's really impressive how entitled people are.
Coming to combat a post that 100s if not 1000s of people agree with then complaining about getting pushback. This isn't a small group chat this is a public forum.

[Edmund_Blackadder]

It's really impressive how entitled people are.
Coming to combat a post that 100s if not 1000s of people agree with then complaining about getting pushback. This isn't a small group chat this is a public forum.

100% in agreement with this post. Reminded me of this meme:

[fulminating]

It is miserable when the healer is inexperienced/unable to keep up with incoming damage and the party damage is low enough to struggle with small pulls (stone vigil etc). I don’t think outright removing tank sustain would make the game more fun overall. At the same time, tanks that miraculously cannot hold aggro are/were easy enough to deal with through healtanking, admittedly made more inconvenient by the hot aggro changes.

I think to keep in line with the “frictionless” interactions, the easiest solution is a medium length (15/18/21s) dot and another irregularly pressed button. After that, looking at the healing kits and consolidating the superfluous things - seraphism (why is this not a trait reducing et recast under dissipation), fey blessing (why does this cost no gauge and function as indom2), seraph (rouse/indom stacks or w/e) etc might be the next obvious step. Warrior is fun to heal on because of the limitations not despite them.