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    Kayokane's Avatar
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    Aluena Mahri
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Believe me when I say this: everytime I zone into daily dungeon roulettes as any healer and see that I got paired with a WAR at lv56 or higher contents, I beg to the stars to (mis)align, hoping that they'll play like an absolute dog$h!t so I got something more to do.

    Alternatively, I beg that somehow I can cause a glitch to the system and allow me to change to 3rd DPS so I can be more than a "3rd worse DPS" in the party. I'm NOT needed there.

    Same can be applied to PLD from lv82 and above. They DON'T need me, at all.

    I've only ever seen like 4 WARs die since EW... I'm not letting it happen again, regen pre-pull, asylum when up, PoM Holy Holy Holy Holy Holy Holy Holy Assize, refresh regen when appropriate, its the most I need usually. I've needed tetra maybe once, twice at most.
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    Last edited by Kayokane; 06-17-2024 at 03:55 AM. Reason: grammar

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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Believe me when I say this: everytime I zone into daily dungeon roulettes as any healer and see that I got paired with a WAR at lv56 or higher contents, I beg to the stars to (mis)align, hoping that they'll play like an absolute dog$h!t so I got something more to do.

    Alternatively, I beg that somehow I can cause a glitch to the system and allow me to change to 3rd DPS so I can be more than a "3rd worse DPS" in the party. I'm NOT needed there.

    Same can be applied to PLD from lv82 and above. They DON'T need me, at all.
    best duty to get as a healer is MSQ with a warr... I get to dps when everyone is up and actually get to heal the tank.. because I dont think they have any of that yet at the equalized level of 50.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Oneiron Fuchs
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Niroken View Post
    Earth, Wind and Water elements? Those are for other jobs.
    WHM is all about throwing glitter until the end of time now.
    Offtopic but This is what alienated me the most about the job, it underwent a complete change in its aesthetics. I know many people love the lily aesthetic but man do I miss the druid vibe it had. Will never forget about Aero III.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I was shocked when I saw the media tour and WHM didn't even get any visual changes to the filler lol
    This will be especially boring to look at when you do the MSQ. All you look at are the old animations for 95% of your time through the story quests. What an epic and engaging way to reach lvl 100 I must say!
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    Last edited by Fukuro; 06-17-2024 at 03:25 AM.

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    Rowan Aarontagdh
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    Scholar Lv 90
    The main problem is damage in the game, not the class designs themselves of healers. Healers have more than enough tools they need, they just have no need to use them.
    People say that struggling parties are the most exhilerating on healers because you actually get to do something, or joke that they hope people will struggle.

    A fundamental problem is that nothing deals any damage in the game. Vulnerability mechanics add to this problem, because what damage *can* be done makes you take more subsequent damage. Basically, 3 strikes you're out. If you get hit with a 3rd instance of damage, while you have 2 vuln stacks, you'll usually die if you're a dps, and as a healer for sure.
    This is a problem because it prevents you from adding more damage to the game because any damage is highly punishing.
    So, that leaves us with a playstyle of play perfectly or die, with nothing to heal in between. It should be okay to have aoe's that may be impossible to dodge in some circumstances. Instead because vulnerability is punishing, not immensely punishing, but punishing enough, it forces you to design aoe's to be easily avoidable and have practically no damage that isn't avoidable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
    The biggest problem with this thread, like most forum threads, is that many of the people expressing discontent disagree strongly with each other on how to resolve the situation and/or improve healing in the game. Almost everyone here is suggesting a different idea.
    Like Cordyceps, the issue has burrowed so deep into the nervous system that there is no single root you can look at to plug out and declare the issue fixed. It's a whole mycelium down there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
    and almost every different idea directly contradicts another person's idea
    But I frankly do not see this at all. I'm not sure how you got that impression. In fact what I'm seeing is the same ideas being repeated ad nauseam.
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zakuyia View Post
    yet Im told healers dont want more damage? Like bruh what even is this strike. I'd be ok if ppl ask to bring back old astro cards that had variety of buffs minus TP (your and OG if you know what that is, i dont miss it) Yet asking for engaging content means increasing dungeons to be even harder.....
    I do not necessarily want to do more damage; I want the damage I already do to be broken up across more pieces rather than loaded almost entirely into one spell.

    Does that help clarify any confusion?
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Halicarnassus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    Offtopic but This is what alienated me the most about the job, it underwent a complete change in its aesthetics. I know many people love the lily aesthetic but man do I miss the druid vibe it had.
    We're getting outside the topic of the thread but they really should add an official spell glamor system like the pet glamors. I would happily replace Glare 3 with Stone 1 and throw rocks at gods, Stone 1 gets replaced so early you're already at Stone 2 in Satasha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakuyia View Post
    ok so play harder content would be the answer to that.
    I'm just going to keep linking this because these pictures really just answer this often repeated argument for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    Also, picture(s) say a thousand words:

    Scholar casts in top 5 speedrun, Savage, A12S/O12Sp2/E12Sp2/P12Sp2

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    50th percentile Scholar, Savage, A12S/O12Sp2/E12Sp2/P12Sp2

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    EW



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    10th percentile Scholar, Savage, A12S/O12Sp2/E12Sp2/P12Sp2

    HW



    SB



    ShB



    EW

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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    I'm just going to keep linking this because these pictures really just answer this often repeated argument for me.
    You should add what these same charts look like in the hardest content in WoW (Good comparison since it's basically the same website, and similar gameplay)

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