#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

The biggest problem with this thread, like most forum threads, is that many of the people expressing discontent disagree strongly with each other on how to resolve the situation and/or improve healing in the game. Almost everyone here is suggesting a different idea, and almost every different idea directly contradicts another person's idea.

There are a lot of ideas floating around but the only one I've seen that is directly contradictory is the tank sustain argument,

"heal more" vs "more interesting damage rotation" aren't contradictory for instance, I'd argue we need both actually, even "I actually like the GCD nuke" can easily be integrated with one of the four healers instead of making all four the same.

[Gemina]

There are a lot of ideas floating around but the only one I've seen that is directly contradictory is the tank sustain argument,

"heal more" vs "more interesting damage rotation" aren't contradictory for instance, I'd argue we need both actually, even "I actually like the GCD nuke" can easily be integrated with one of the four healers instead of making all four the same.

This is actually the compromise many healers from both sides have arrived at. When I was shown some of the graphs exhibiting just how much time was spent spamming one skill even in savage, it immediately dawned on me that having even just one additional GCD skill to use towards damage, such as a follow up, would cut that figure right in half. And that's me. Not a game designer. Not a savage runner. Yet the dev's solution to adding an additional skill was to lock it behind a two minute ability. It is unfathomable to me how anyone can be so set to keep healers right where they're at and be perplexed that the house of cards finally came crumbling down.

[azrablack]

I support the direction!

[Rozeee]

The biggest problem with this thread, like most forum threads, is that many of the people expressing discontent disagree strongly with each other on how to resolve the situation and/or improve healing in the game. Almost everyone here is suggesting a different idea, and almost every different idea directly contradicts another person's idea.

Ultimately this is where our responsibility as a player ends. The devs are presented with a problem and they will have to figure out the best solution. Listening to player feedback for solutions is how you get the 2-min meta or AST RNG removal.

Anything besides the devs burying their head in the sand while saying "go play ultimate" would be fine. Their silence about the state of healer is deafening when they have talked about other controversial changes such as kaiten removal or large hitboxes. If they're afraid of receiving backlash then maybe they should think about why they're receiving backlash in the first place.

[OliviaLugria]

ok so play harder content would be the answer to that.

"We want more interesting ways to deal damage"

"Go okay harder content"

In what way does this solve this player's issue?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

What's so hard to understand this:


VERSUS THIS



The point was never to increase the damage output that healer deal - It's -how- the damage is done.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

yet Im told healers dont want more damage?

Yes that was me hello, if you can point to a single instance of people asking for more damage output as opposed to more interesting ways to do damage (yes these aren't the same thing) it would be very conductive to further discussion on this point

[Ramiee]

But your job is mainly healing. Im not trolling im saying when you signed up to heal thats what you signed up for. When I dps im not sitting there think Oh boi i wish i could heal more? DPS - where i go when i want big numbers Healer is where i go when I wanna assist my team with heals. Tank is where i go when i wanna be a bad ass #youtanksareamazing

Then make some of the same roles in the job more damage focused?
There's 4 Jobs you can have 1 or 2 with a simple DPS rotation and the other with more to do. Also play harder content doesn't work cus TOP was cleared with no healers when it's new and savage reclears can easily drop down to 1 healer over time.

[Punslinger]

But, majority in favour... do you just do the "casual" content? Example: MSQ/side dungeons, normal Trials and normal raids? Because if so... Obviously you won't be using your full healing kit... it's not meant for that type of content.

This is Sylphie Talking Point #17: "Obviously, if you are not happy with the current state of Healer design, then you just haven't ever healed EX or Savage."

What have we here? Yet another "gO pLaY uLtImAtE" post? I can set my watch by how often these get posted - has it been fifteen minutes already?

So what do you think healer mains should do in the other 99% of the game? If you think healers are in a good state, then I challenge you: roll a brand new CNJ alt and take it from level 1 to 90. You'll have your complete GCD DPS "rotation" at level 4. If you can Stone/Glare-spam your way through all of ARR, and all of HW, and all of SB, and all of ShB, and all of EW, and come out the other end with your sanity intact, then you will have earned the right to claim that healers are fun to play in their current state.

Somehow, I doubt you will do this.

I'm tired of hearing the argument "Go try harder content, you haven't experienced what REAL healing is like" but then players who have gone and done said content are told "Oh, well, you're just to good at the game, of course this content isn't engaging for you."

It's the Endless...well, not a Waltz, but a two-step.

Tick: "You're a scrub casual n00b who hasn't world-firsted an Ultimate, so your opinion doesn't count."
Tock: "You're a toxic elitist tryhard sweaty minmaxing raider and don't represent all the lil' babby n00bs who can't heal dungeons, so your opinion doesn't count."

All I can say is that I hope their backs start hurting from carrying those goalposts around like that.

But your job is mainly healing. Im not trolling im saying when you signed up to heal thats what you signed up for.

This is Sylphie Talking Point #21: "I don't want more Damage actions! I play a Healer to Heal. If you want to DPS, play a DPS."

In that case, I get to recycle my refutation of this recycled talking point again!

Also, let's get rid of every DPS button except for 1 from every tank. After all, their job is mainly tanking, not DPSing. And they knew that when they signed up to tank. If tanks are asked to press more than 1 button to do damage, their brains might melt down and they might miss their defensive CDs.