#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Kathryn]

This entire post, and any requests to show savage logs when the discussion is not about savage but job design, are ad hominem attacks and we don't have to respond to them. The people who have anything intelligent to say about healer design are able to do so without criticising a person's accomplishments.

By your likes to my likes ratio to some degree I am correct in that response, you guys literally want an echochamber and you are absolutely unwilling to discuss idea's unless it suits you.

It seems to be the same 10-15 people liking eachothers posts thinking giving eachother a false sense of accomplishment. Good luck with your strike.

[Pandurah]

snip snap

Mad no one agrees with you? It's all this really reads as, sadly. There's a plethora of information here that people just aren't considering, or even reading. But yet again, thanks for the bump I guess!

[Aravell]

Thats fine, you are not open to criticism, you are scared of it so you hide behind an alt instead of showing your accomplishments that makes healers boring and are certainly not needed for all content, that's fine I now know for certain this thread isnt a serious one and I will leave you all to it, it got boring reading all the players attacking eachother instead of seeing a real discussion.

Cool, thanks for playing psychologist for me, now I don't have to pay for a real one.

[Aravell]

So, again. I don't blame anyone for not signing themselves up to be screwed with. It's really troubling after awhile. A nihilistic perspective is understandable.

I always make sure to have as little of my info out as possible precisely so I don't have to deal with unhinged people who stalk others for simply having an opinion.

All anyone has to do is look at how vicious some people are in this very thread. Would anyone like being on the receiving end of that?

If someone wants to call me a coward who can't accept criticism because I don't want to paint a harassment target on myself, more power to them. I don't care about their opinion though, I care more about my own comfort than what some armchair psychologist on the internet thinks of how I act.

[Melchan]

I only read the summary of complaints in the OP so I just wanted to add that the healing interface is also atrocious. There's no built-in click-to-cast options and mouse-over macros function poorly in this game, not queuing casts as expected. So casting heals and buffs (especially as AST to give my party cards) requires individually targeting each person in turn. Just the simple act of "throw heal on tank between DPS casts" requires at least 5 inputs (Glare, target tank, cast heal, retarget boss, Glare) and it's pretty disappointing. I mained healer in WoW but it just feels bland and outdated in FFXIV. It could be so, so, SO much better.

[TheDustyOne]

I only read the summary of complaints in the OP so I just wanted to add that the healing interface is also atrocious. There's no built-in click-to-cast options and mouse-over macros function poorly in this game, not queuing casts as expected. So casting heals and buffs (especially as AST to give my party cards) requires individually targeting each person in turn. Just the simple act of "throw heal on tank between DPS casts" requires at least 5 inputs (Glare, target tank, cast heal, retarget boss, Glare) and it's pretty disappointing. I mained healer in WoW but it just feels bland and outdated in FFXIV. It could be so, so, SO much better.

This is definitely another thing I'd like to see added, not just mouse-overs, but also ground-targeting abilities be used on single press rather than double-press or click-to-place.

[Aravell]

This is honestly why something like Barbariccia EX were so well liked, it's probably the most unanimously praised fight in EW, an opinion I share. Rather than relying on debuff overload, or a really precise positioning for every member of the team, Barb was fast, there was always something happening or to plan for, damage was frequent, and one player making a mistake usually did not cascade into an immediate unrecoverable situation. But the underlying mechanics were straightforward to understand, there was no need for a twenty page toolbox or a 15 minute YT video. The fight builds upon itself, and I even think tanks have a solid time in there. There's a lot of good there. I think every role got their time to shine in that fight somehow.

While tanks do get some stuff to do in Barbariccia EX, I do find it disappointing that the fight only has 2 tankbusters and a couple tank proxy markers. All the tank damage is far apart enough that you can kitchen sink them. You can even kitchen sink the tank stack marker if you have it as OT and not get punished for it. She does have parts where the mechanics are easier done if you move her though, so there's that.

I personally think it's a more enjoyable fight on healer than any other role though.

[Aravell]

Mm.. I can agree.
In a broad viewpoint someone who plays a healer is a "victim" of the circumstances.
And then they act in a way to make others victims of those actions.
But if that's the only way they believe that SE will listen, who am I to stop them. Not that I could if I even tried.
I just don't think that SE has been ignoring healers or their feedbacks.
I think that tanks and healers are as they are today because people years ago complained about how anxiety inducing and stressful playing a tank / healer was, so SE simplified them.
And this is the result of SE listening from back then.

We keep being told that we're making others victims, except we're not.

This strike is no different than if a number of healer mains decided to level a DPS instead of a healer first, and since it's a double DPS expansion, you'd have been feeling the queue times anyway.

Just because we tended to play healers before doesn't mean we're locked into that role permanently.

[Evergrey]

We keep being told that we're making others victims, except we're not.

This strike is no different than if a number of healer mains decided to level a DPS instead of a healer first, and since it's a double DPS expansion, you'd have been feeling the queue times anyway.

Just because we tended to play healers before doesn't mean we're locked into that role permanently.

What you just said is exactly how I see about this Strike.
If you take away the word "Strike", and the (more or less) organized gathering of it, it's just people who think a job is boring and switches to something more enjoyable.
So in the end, those who comment "play something else if you don't like healer" won said argument.
It is how people try to organize a strike that they know (and some expect and hope) will effect others who have nothing to do with it, innocent players who might not even know this whole thing is going on in the forums.

[Payadopa]

It's a feedback forum. People are providing feedback. "It won't amount to anything". Yeah, tell that to all Vieras for example. The race that came about because enough people requested it. And on the subject of the battle system, YoshiP himself said the current system has no room to grow anymore so they need to change it. Now people are providing feedback. In a feedback forum.
Feedback. Forum. xD