#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Aravell]

I personally don't really care if Cleric Stance returns or not, but I want to point out that Cleric Stance existing actually helped the more casual playerbase.

People viewed the chance of a healer being locked in Cleric Stance when healing was required to be very likely, so many people preferred the healer to not do damage.

So tales of switching to Cleric, and then everyone DYING HORRIBLY AHHHHH because you can't heal because you're strapped in Cleric Jail, seem perplexing and greatly-exaggerated to me.

Honestly, this kind of example reads more like a healer timing their Cleric Stance badly, which isn't the fault of the skill but of the player.

[Reinha]

And if you don't like how a nerfed warrior would feel in dungeons, so what? It's just dungeons bro. Do savage to feel powerful again bro.

[OgruMogru]

Bring back berserk pacification!

[Pandurah]

Bring back berserk pacification!

100% this!

[Raesha]

If cleric stance was brought back i would never turn it off, The other healer can heal ima pump my dps soooo hard

[Mortex]

I suspect a lot of the healers striking are already donuts to begin with. You yourself, the creator of this thread, have admitted to not doing much higher-end content. Frankly, your opinion is completely irrelevant because of that. When you get up to the extreme level, the savage level, the ultimate level, the sustain of tanks (and dps) matters less and less because the fights are mechanically difficult, not healing difficult. Healers matter most, in my opinion, in prog,

Content in this game is a puzzle. It might be a difficult puzzle to figure out, but once you do, that\\\\'s it. It\\\\'s solved. This means that once you\\\\'ve got it down, tanks will always know where they\\\\'re putting their mits, healers will always know where they\\\\'re putting their heals, dps will always know where they\\\\'re putting their mits, when they\\\\'re using their burst, etc. etc. That\\\\'s just how it is. So instead of making healer good, or making tanks worse, there would need to be a complete overhaul of the battle system to make it less puzzle-like. I\\\\'m far from the first person to have this idea. I genuinely don\\\\'t think this is ever going to happen. Again, for better or for worse, the game\\\\'s gotten easier over the years and it\\\\'s now "acceptable" now more than ever to be bad.

At the start I accepted your takes like you are some one being a bit of a yapper. But now after having these kind of takes I don’t even know what to write anymore. Healer pretty much in savage week 1 don’t matter because 99 % of the mechs are body checks. Every freaking mechs these days is a body check and if some one stood wrong you have a massive colourful explosion and you restart the encounter.

And also tank and dps have actually different moments were kill time does matter in top for example or reaper using arcane circle at end p2 or tanks having completely different cd rotations depending on the tank combo while healer still slam the 1 key 24/7.

Also Jesus lord in heaven the game didn’t get easier the jobs did. Pls compare old Alexander 12s to p12 s and tell me the game got easier with a straight face (also the community in general got way better) Just the door boss takes a dumb all over a12 s mechanic wise.

Like I’m a person that has normally not really a problem with any takes (I’m a person that uses data and facts and not personal feelings for arguments…….. normally) but you did these L takes a decent number of times now when people told you they did ultimate and week one and still find the healer role piss boring.

The fact is the healer role since start shadowbringer didn’t change at all and this was 5 years ago. I swapped of healer end shadowbringer because the role is not fun when you get better, the reward is less healing more 1 key hitting.

[Kazmarek]

I swapped of healer end shadowbringer because the role is not fun when you get better, the reward is less healing more 1 key hitting.

Hey congratulations my man! You did what everyone else refused to do until now. I'm happy for you, truly. I'm glad we agree!

[GoodPerson]

I saw this mentioned earlier in the thread and just wanted to emphasize and expand on it.

Imagine , for tanks, your combo was basically Frontline/pvp variant (One button press continues your combo string of, say, Heavy Swing>Maim>Storm's Path/Eye). You had a singular Dot Gcd. And then, to fill the rest of your class load out, about 10 different variants of Rampart of various effects and cooldowns. That is tragically what playing healer has, and as you can imagine, isn't very engaging

[Supersnow845]

I saw this mentioned earlier in the thread and just wanted to emphasize and expand on it.

Imagine , for tanks, your combo was basically Frontline/pvp variant (One button press continues your combo string of, say, Heavy Swing>Maim>Storm's Path/Eye). You had a singular Dot Gcd. And then, to fill the rest of your class load out, about 10 different variants of Rampart of various effects and cooldowns. That is tragically what playing healer has, and as you can imagine, isn't very engaging

And while you have this kit the WHM is permanently stunning the mobs with holy so pressing your 25 variants of rampart is functionally totally useless unless the healer actively doesn’t know what holy is

[GoodPerson]

And while you have this kit the WHM is permanently stunning the mobs with holy so pressing your 25 variants of rampart is functionally totally useless unless the healer actively doesn’t know what holy is

And when you try to voice opposition to the state, you're told by the developers some response such as
"It felt bad to use a big defensive early, and then take tank busters without any mitigation without depending on a healer. In order to combat this we've decided to make tanks more mitigation focused to handle a variety of encounters and play patterns. We've also simplified rotations as tanks were too enveloped in performing combo actions to pay attention to important cast bars and on screen effects. "

Possibly a little too dramatic but that's about how I remembered the rationale for the original healer changes