#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Flay_wind]

Slightly off-topic, but for the sake of argument "give us more dps buttons".
Here's my E12S P2 5:50 log (Advanced Relativity skip) on BLU as a solo healer.

BLU has only GCD heals and a lot of OGCD damage spells on 30, 60, 120s timers.
We used a lot of Revenge Blasts, as such all dps needed to be low on health, while tank takes constant autos and has little to no self-sustain, so i couldn't just use my stronger heals, nor tank could White Wind themselves. White Wind in Raids is a full party heal most of the time.
Autos from the boss roughly hurt for the same amout as Pom Cure Heal.
As you can see, while i do press a lot of "1" and "2". i press a lot of other buttons in the meantime.

[Sotaris]

In any case, I'm clearly not getting anywhere, so I'm tapping out. In summary: by all means, go crazy with this strike. If it goes exactly as planned and queues are utterly broken in DT and Yoshi P himself has to schedule an emergency live letter to get on his hands and knees and beg you all to start doing roulettes on healer again, that's great. Maybe that'll give SE enough of an incentive to cut/delay content they'd already planned for the next few patches and fully pivot to completely reworking healers per your demands ASAP and just eat the financial loss that doing so would incur.

My point is this: until such time as the above transpires, there is no evidence that "healers are in an awful state and need to be completely reworked" is a majority opinion or that it should be given any more weight than any other opinion, and therefore there is no ground to demand the kinds of immediate and sweeping changes I've seen demanded in this thread. Your opinion on the state of healers and whether or not they should be reworked is not universally true, is not more valuable than the opinions of extreme casuals, hardcore raiders, non-healers, or anyone else, and does not justify condescending to and belittling people who disagree. That's it, really.

Maybe I'm just ignorant cause I'm a big filthy casual to this game, but I fail to see how a "strike" will do anything practical inside the game. Most people aren't on here or reddit. I will continue playing on WHM in DT and don't expect having issues getting into queues. More likely, I will still have instant queues when everyone will be playing Viper, Picto, insert-job.

[KageTokage]

It's mostly a matter of attempting to be noticed by the devs by causing a healer shortage...though whether they'll properly grasp the reasons for such is up in the air because at this point I could just as easily see them overlooking the complaints people have, assuming healers are being avoided because they're somehow still too complicated and dumbing them down even more...

It's extremely unlikely any meaningful change will happen quickly given that the issues people have aren't really something that can be fixed by simply tweaking numbers.

[SamLeens]

For all the people recently who say that "it's not that healer needs more damage options, it's that there's not enough damage going out", I have to ask you all.....

What do you do when there's nothing to heal? Do you keep up your damage? If so, do you not find your 2111111111112111111..... rotation boring?

There is actually zero possible way to make it so there's no downtime in this game. You can attempt to shorten the downtime, but you also have to keep in mind that the shorter the downtime becomes, the less time you also have to recover mistakes. This would undoubtedly raise the skill floor and would thus be not considered for regular dungeon content.

A solution should target all levels of play, it shouldn't be a half solution that cannot be applied to the content where healers are currently suffering an identity crisis the most.

Yes i keep my damage up. no, i don't find it boring because i don't just use 2 skills. that would greatly reduce my damage.

Before Dawntrail it looks like this:
Whm: Assize, Dia, Afflatus Misery, Glare 3, Holy 3
Sch: Energy Drain, Biolysis, Broil 4, Art of War
Ast: Fall Malefic, Gravity 2, Combustion 3, Stellar Detonation, Macrocosmos, Lord of the Crowns
Sge: Dosis 3, Phlegma 3, Eukrasian Dosis 3, Dyskrasia 2, Toxikon 2, Pneuma

I know Holy 3, Art of War, Gravity 2 and Dyskrasia 2 are mainly used in dungeons, but they are still damage skills.

If you want something different, just play with only half of your healing skills and remove most of your insta heals, or just use only all the upgraded versions of the skills you had in heavensward. Its an option, right?!

[Tint]

It's extremely unlikely any meaningful change will happen quickly given that the issues people have aren't really something that can be fixed by simply tweaking numbers.

Nerfing tank and dps self sustain is tweaking numbers. Then adding a second DoT to every healer is also easily done. Creating an animation for it would be the hardest part, but they can probably stitch something together with existing animations.

Probably not the fix people are hoping for but it would be something.

[KageTokage]

Yes i keep my damage up. no, i don't find it boring because i don't just use 2 skills. that would greatly reduce my damage.

Before Dawntrail it looks like this:
Whm: Assize, Dia, Afflatus Misery, Glare 3, Holy 3
Sch: Energy Drain, Biolysis, Broil 4, Art of War
Ast: Fall Malefic, Gravity 2, Combustion 3, Stellar Detonation, Macrocosmos, Lord of the Crowns
Sge: Dosis 3, Phlegma 3, Eukrasian Dosis 3, Dyskrasia 2, Toxikon 2, Pneuma

I know Holy 3, Art of War, Gravity 2 and Dyskrasia 2 are mainly used in dungeons, but they are still damage skills.

If you want something different, just play with only half of your healing skills and remove most of your insta heals, or just use only all the upgraded versions of the skills you had in heavensward. Its an option, right?!

It's not just a matter of having buttons but how often you actually get to use those buttons.

DT job changes in general are being largely panned because they don't meaningfully change our EW rotations for the most part due to being attached to one/two minute CDs.

[Aravell]

If you want something different, just play with only half of your healing skills and remove most of your insta heals, or just use only all the upgraded versions of the skills you had in heavensward. Its an option, right?!

If the proposed solution to a problem isn't to play better but to play worse, then it's a problem that needs quick fixing.

[Zakuyia]

Ok i commend yall for wanting to do the strike...my question is what are yall on strike for and why and how to resolve the problems?

[GrimGale]

Ok i commend yall for wanting to do the strike...my question is what are yall on strike for and why and how to resolve the problems?

check the very first post

[kyyninen_kirahvi]

Ok i commend yall for wanting to do the strike...my question is what are yall on strike for and why and how to resolve the problems?

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...IVHEALERSTRIKE