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    GrimGale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by OogaShaka View Post
    I main a healer and while doing damage is nice you are there to heal. A healers damage is not significant enough to cry rivers and post far too numerous threads whining. Good for your boycott , that means i will que faster, also to add if you want to do dps ...roll one.
    If I read another "healer should heal" frozen take I will shoot myself.
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    Luma Deahaart
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    Quote Originally Posted by OogaShaka View Post
    snip snap
    Hmm, if you'd taken the time to look, you'd know the problem isn't about wanting to 'do more dps'. I suggest, as you yourself are a healer main, you take the time to read over the details of the strike (not boycott, maybe look that up, too). Either way, thanks for your engagement in the thread!
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    Mari Yumishi
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    Quote Originally Posted by OogaShaka View Post
    I main a healer and while doing damage is nice you are there to heal. A healers damage is not significant enough to cry rivers and post far too numerous threads whining. Good for your boycott , that means i will que faster, also to add if you want to do dps ...roll one.
    That would be fine and all if there was healing to be done. Most of the time you just hit your ogcd heals to take care of it. It would be a different story if there was enough dmg going out that healers had to also gcd heal but there isn't Its all fine if you just want to spam one button for dmg or just stand there till outgoing dmg hits and you have to hit your ogcd heal but its beyond boring and a lot of healers would like to be doing something. Either give healers more dmg abilities to hit or increase the dmg output so they are, you know, actually healing. I think most would be okay if there was enough dmg going out to make them also have to spend gcd heals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OogaShaka View Post
    I main a healer and while doing damage is nice you are there to heal. A healers damage is not significant enough to cry rivers and post far too numerous threads whining. Good for your boycott , that means i will que faster, also to add if you want to do dps ...roll one.
    I am here to heal.... what incoming damage exactly? And if I was there to only heal, and the incoming damage expected that of me, then the time to recover from mistakes would make ultimate look tame, as such there has to be some downtime allowed within fight design, and with that it needs to be more interesting than Glaroilificosis spam.

    Damage has always been a part of a healers kit in this game, even back when we had far more to heal, the simplification sticks out like a sore thumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OogaShaka View Post
    I main a healer and while doing damage is nice you are there to heal. A healers damage is not significant enough to cry rivers and post far too numerous threads whining.
    That's actually incorrect, Healers are capable of contributing significant amounts of damage.

    For example, it's possible for Healers with good uptime on Damage GCDs to contribute 10-15% of the total damage in a Savage Floor clear, or about 5-8% each.

    That is also a conservative estimate, which can trend higher depending on composition, mechanical strategies, and circumstances.

    That's a significant amount of total Party Damage, especially considering that there are only 8 players total in a Savage Party.

    And that amount of Damage can mean the difference between Enrage or No Enrage, if mistakes occur. And if everyone is playing well, then it came mean skipping entire phases of the encounter.

    If you want to "help your Party" or "keep them safe", then ending the Encounter sooner, or preventing more dangerous phases from ever occurring, is certainly one legitimate way to contribute to achieving that.

    —————————

    However, that is all beside the point, since your secondary statement seems to indicate that you believe that Healers are complaining simply because they literally want to do increased quantities of Damage, numerically.

    This indicates a complete and total lack of comprehension of what this thread is about.

    In that case, I must ask you — if you are not going to take the time to actually read and understand what Healers's concerns are, then why do you expect anyone here to, in return, care about your own opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazmarek View Post
    So they can bend the knee to healer ego instead, right?
    "I would like my Role to actually have a purpose in content, and actually be needed, rather than being entirely-replaced by other Roles's OGCDs.".

    "I WILL NEVER BEND MY KNEE TO SUCH EGO"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    Another day and more whining.
    I am glad that you are now being more honest about the content of your posts here. Self-awareness is the first step to improvement as a person. I would like to offer my complete support for you on this difficult but rewarding journey.
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    Last edited by Eorzean_username; 06-15-2024 at 06:11 AM.

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    I like when people quote random damage numbers without solid proof of said numbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by OogaShaka View Post
    I like when people quote random damage numbers without solid proof of said numbers
    Here's the numbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OogaShaka View Post
    I like when people quote random damage numbers without solid proof of said numbers
    I mean, you said that healer damage is "not significant enough" without solid proof. What makes your statement better?

    The funny number site is there for people to see if they want, healer damage isn't insignificant and is required to meet enrage in savage, especially in the early weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OogaShaka View Post
    I like when people quote random damage numbers without solid proof of said numbers
    Well I'd love to but, unfortunately, the methods by which my extremely-savant friend manages to calculate massive quantites of combat-log numbers in their head are not approved-of by the local authorities here.

    However, don't worry! There's a work-around. As long as you can figure out the name of my good friend — and they're fairly well-known around the community — then you don't even need to trust my word for it.

    If you hypothetically end up finding their house, you too can look through their records — which even conveniently have the Percent Damage Contribution calculations already performed for you.

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    Aluena Mahri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_username View Post
    -snip-
    I'm a WHM main, my sole job was to determine how bene was to be used.
    • If DRK, Bene reserved for LD
    • else, Bene can be used basically on CD when appropriate... generally after raising the 4 vuln stack DPS
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    Last edited by Kayokane; 06-15-2024 at 05:48 AM.

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