#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Punslinger]

Yes i keep my damage up. no, i don't find it boring because i don't just use 2 skills. that would greatly reduce my damage.

Oh goody, this is the part where non-healers who occasionally cure-spam their way to a free carry through fights get pedantic and pretend that AoEs and one-minute oGCDs are a meaningful part of a single-target damage rotation.

Whm: Assize, Dia, Afflatus Misery, Glare 3, Holy 3

An oGCD you mindlessly smash on-cooldown for the DPS, a single DoT, a damage spell that exists only to ensure that lily heals are DPS-neutral, the one button you'll press for 60-90% of the fight, and your one AoE spell that you'll never use in single-target situations.

This reduces to two buttons being used for the majority of your GCDs.

Sch: Energy Drain, Biolysis, Broil 4, Art of War

An oGCD that exists solely as an Aetherflow dump, a single DoT, the one button you'll press for 60-90% of the fight, and your one AoE spell that you'll never use in single-target situations.

This reduces to two buttons being used for the majority of your GCDs.

Ast: Fall Malefic, Gravity 2, Combustion 3, Stellar Detonation, Macrocosmos, Lord of the Crowns

The one button you'll press for 60-90% of the fight, your one AoE spell that you'll never use in single-target situations, a single DoT, an oGCD that you'll mindlessly smash on-cooldown for the DPS, another oGCD that you'll have to hold for specific mechanics it can delete with its healing (P3S comes to mind), and an oGCD that you'll sometimes get to weave at random once or twice a minute.

This reduces to two buttons being used for the majority of your GCDs.

Sge: Dosis 3, Phlegma 3, Eukrasian Dosis 3, Dyskrasia 2, Toxikon 2, Pneuma

The one button you'll press for 60-90% of the fight, one AoE spell that you'll never use in single-target situations, a single DoT, another AoE spell you'll never use in single-target situations, a third AoE spell you'll never use in single-target situations, and which can only be used if one of your shields breaks, and a fourth AoE spell stapled to a heal with a high MP cost.

This reduces to two buttons being used for the majority of your GCDs.

If you want something different, just play with only half of your healing skills and remove most of your insta heals, or just use only all the upgraded versions of the skills you had in heavensward. Its an option, right?!

BLMs can choose to RP as Ice Mages and ignore half their kit as well. People seem to get a bit cross when you do that in dungeons, though.

Healers should not only be fun if you deliberately gimp your own performance.

[Rubiss]

I would love for YoshiP to play Healer for a tier. Maybe he'd understand what it's like to press the same single button 80% of the time. I feel as though not a single soul in the entire dev team actually plays healer. How could anyone let it remain the way it is for so many years? Promises of things changing in 7.2? Cool, so wait more than a year for what's likely going to be mid? Healing is just going to suck and remain bad. Better off playing DPS.

[Oizen]

I would love for YoshiP to play Healer for a tier. Maybe he'd understand what it's like to press the same single button 80% of the time. I feel as though not a single soul in the entire dev team actually plays healer. How could anyone let it remain the way it is for so many years? Promises of things changing in 7.2? Cool, so wait more than a year for what's likely going to be mid? Healing is just going to suck and remain bad. Better off playing DPS.

I dont believe Yoshida plays this game anymore. I think he used to in stormblood but I think theres a lot more distance between him and FFXIV right now

[Kathryn]

So for Clarity on whats wanted from this healerstrike is:

You want mitigations removed from Tanks and DPS?

You want Self heals Removed from Tanks and DPS?

You want enemies to hit much harder?

You want healers to have a more decisive DPS Rotation?

This is what I've gathered from the posts made in this thread, I promise im not trolling Im just gathering feedback confirmation.

[TheDustyOne]

You want mitigations removed from Tanks and DPS?

No, at worst maybe some could do with nerfs, but otherwise mitigation is more of the tanks job than healers anyway.

You want Self heals Removed from Tanks and DPS?

Moreso nerfed than removed, although a large chunk can definitely be removed. They're powerful enough to make healers largely unneeded in casual content. It's one thing to have skilled players able to do content without a healer with some good planning, but currently you can get extremely sloppy and still succeed without a healer in casual content.

You want enemies to hit much harder?

Depends on how hard; too hard and it will affect casual players, but it certainly needs to be more than now, enough to make the healer feel warranted.

You want healers to have a more decisive DPS Rotation?

Yes. Doesn't need much, I'd be happy with about 4-6 regularly used buttons in a single target rotation, give or take.

[Kathryn]

No, at worst maybe some could do with nerfs, but otherwise mitigation is more of the tanks job than healers anyway.



Moreso nerfed than removed, although a large chunk can definitely be removed. They're powerful enough to make healers largely unneeded in casual content. It's one thing to have skilled players able to do content without a healer with some good planning, but currently you can get extremely sloppy and still succeed without a healer in casual content.



Depends on how hard; too hard and it will affect casual players, but it certainly needs to be more than now, enough to make the healer feel warranted.



Yes. Doesn't need much, I'd be happy with about 4-6 regularly used buttons in a single target rotation, give or take.

Well, I never got anymore responses so I can't build a consensus of whats really wanted sadly, I guess everyone's got me on ignore.

Thank you for your input though I appreciate it.

[Len_]

i still don't understand why cleric stance was straight up removed. it was too hard? ok, but it was also fun, so don't delete it, re-balance it. make it an optimization thing instead of a requirement. like a +5%/-5% alteration.

"Yoshida: For example, in a side scrolling game, if there aren’t any holes you can drop down into if you miss a jump, ofcourse the game would lose its stress, but it would also lose its fun."

It was removed because it was bad. There's a version of Cleric Stance in the game that actually makes sense called Lost Seraph Strike.

[Justicebringer]

While I'm in agreement that healing has been on a downward spiral I end up playing it when I'm feeling lazy these days. Mind you I won't be playing it through the MSQ of DT and probably level them or phys ranged last because they kinda bore me too but that's a different topic. I couldn't imagine going through solo duties during MSQ spamming broil with the occasional biolysis. That and the new angel transformation is kinda ugly.

[imjustahealer]

You strike if you want to, this lady is not for striking.
Not happy, go and play wow.
You don't pay my sub!!

[xbahax92]

You strike if you want to, this lady is not for striking.
Not happy, go and play wow.
You don't pay my sub!!

You dont pay my sub either!!
I dont want to play wow, I play ffxiv!!