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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDruidOcelot View Post
    because we haven't actually seen them try and grab back unsubscribed people. ever.
    Except they do. Two-three times a year. What do you think the Free Login and Callback Campaigns are?

    Or were you being sarcastic?

    You don't enjoy healing anymore and are going to start playing jobs in other roles. That's relatable to everyone. People lose enjoyment in things and start doing new things all the time.

    All of you could just say you're retiring from healing or changing careers from healer to tank/DPS if you wanted to bring in employment related phrases.

    How's it going to feel when players are still progressing through MSQ while your strike is going on? Still managing to get their roulettes done because other players stepped up where you stepped down.

    Been sitting on one of my alts watching AIN status as I scroll through this thread.

    This is what Crystal DF looked like 5 minutes ago (by the time I post this).



    It had been running about 80% tank AIN and 20% healer AIN but had to laugh when it switched to that.

    Seems like there are plenty of healers out there doing content as usual and it's pretty unlikely to change at Dawntrail launch regardless of your strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naple View Post
    The ratio is just one metric. Don't forget about the sheer amount of subs, that's an absolutely more valuable metric to SE than anything else in the game. If every healer main unsubbed from the game, you'd be damn sure SE will try their damned hardest to get those players back urgently.

    To me, this healer strike feels like a half measure. If you're ok with a slight inconvenience, then fine. Just don't expect any notable change in the foreseeable future. I also don't have confidence that this strike will last long enough for SE to care. How long will players strike for?
    have u seen the latest luckybancho lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    have u seen the latest luckybancho lol
    Yes, that's just the natural decline from an absurd peak that was EW launch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naple View Post
    Wouldn't unsubbing to the game be a much more effective "strike" for SE to notice? You're still subbed to game providing valuable revenue for SE. You gotta hit SE where it hurts, not simply inconveniencing the portion of the playerbase that have nothing to do with this.
    There's value to unsubbing, if you feel the game is not making you happy anymore, but there are things you can do while subbed to show dissatisfaction with something. By not participating in things you're not happy with, you naturally influence the internal metrics like Druid said. But it's ultimately a choice that you get to make.
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

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    I wonder how affective the strike will be as a tool to affect metrics. I could see it affective at generating discussion or as getting people annoyed that the queues are long (and trying to get them on your side that way. but for that people would have to sympathy with people that have a longer queue time now, which seems unlikely given some response in the thread).

    But considering it is at the same time as 2 new dps jobs release on a new expansion, I don't know how affective it will be for influencing the metrics, considering it is a time where square enix expects a big change in the role distribution anyway in the metrics. Because for a change in metrics being affective with a strike the data would have to show with a high likelihood "that is because of the strike". But in this situation I just see that as extremely unlikely
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellii View Post
    I wonder how affective the strike will be as a tool to affect metrics. I could see it affective at generating discussion or as getting people annoyed that the queues are long (and trying to get them on your side that way. but for that people would have to sympathy with people that have a longer queue time now, which seems unlikely given some response in the thread).

    But considering it is at the same time as 2 new dps jobs release on a new expansion, I don't know how affective it will be for influencing the metrics, considering it is a time where square enix expects a big change in the role distribution anyway in the metrics. Because for a change in metrics being affective with a strike the data would have to show with a high likelihood "that is because of the strike". But in this situation I just see that as extremely unlikely
    I have seen on Twitter people posting pics of all-healers in need already, so it's possible the strike already is having an impact. Usually its mostly tanks in need with some healers in need.

    I think the real issue is that their design for healers in Dawntrail is complete. They aren't going to make any significant changes in a month, and I have no idea how they would rework healers in any significant way mid-expansion. Maybe they can pull it off, but I'm sure healer design has an impact on encounter design and class balancing in general, with a lot of encounters already designed. I think even if the Strike works, we won't see too much change until 8.0.

    I have already seen some adverse reaction from Warriors on social media to not wanting to give up their immortality, so part of these changes likely would need to hit the Tanks and DPS sustain skills.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 06-14-2024 at 03:21 AM.

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    Idk what this talk about solo instances needing a healer NPC is about. Solo instances give all players a regen that covers whatever damage they take in solo. You only fail when you get clipped by multiple dodge-able mechanics back-to-back. You don't need to heal yourself at all.
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

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    Zeph'yrr Rhenyaia
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    I've never used the forums before but this was brought to my attention and I wanted to share my support. I switch between playing rpr and whm so I will not be touching whm for a long while. I really enjoy playing as healer and I hope the devs can take steps to make it feel like the role is not no longer needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellii View Post
    I wonder how affective the strike will be as a tool to affect metrics. I could see it affective at generating discussion or as getting people annoyed that the queues are long (and trying to get them on your side that way. but for that people would have to sympathy with people that have a longer queue time now, which seems unlikely given some response in the thread).

    But considering it is at the same time as 2 new dps jobs release on a new expansion, I don't know how affective it will be for influencing the metrics, considering it is a time where square enix expects a big change in the role distribution anyway in the metrics. Because for a change in metrics being affective with a strike the data would have to show with a high likelihood "that is because of the strike". But in this situation I just see that as extremely unlikely
    People have pointed out the dps ques will get longer. And those healer quiting healing response is too join the dps players and suffer, not understanding they would be adding to the problem. More dps higher que times for all dps common logic. I want healers changed but I am not going to do something that will burden dps with higher que times.
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