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  1. #10961
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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    Also got love how much mit we have now. So much thsr something like howling eight has been severely neutered to where only the 1 and 5th pose any threat to the party and the fifth one would likely be kitchen sinked by all the party mits as well.
    Thanks to the additional gear thus far (week 5, so it's not even BIS yet), I was able to handle the P1 Tracking Tremors without pressing a single GCD heal.

    I expect that similar is possible with the final enrage too, but I didn't bother to try because the only thing on my mind at the time was 'play safe, get the clear, get me out of this fight'
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  2. #10962
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    Iedarus Meridus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Bumping out of pure spite.

    Also, y'all white knights think you're so cute with the tags, it's actually hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    Was this what Yoshi P wanted for people like me? Did he assume we were too foolish to take any semblance of complexity? How could such an allegedly open developer act so dismissive towards his own players? The flavor of the jobs I loved so much throughout the franchise were mere husks of themselves. What was once a magical world peeled away to reveal a sterile room of four walls. No imagination, no challenge, only accessibility for the sake of it. I didn't feel welcomed, I felt betrayed.
    I'll give healer a try up until level 100. If I do not like it, I'm off the role, entirely.

  3. #10963
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    Nero-Voidstails's Avatar
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    Bumping out of pure spite.

    Also, y'all white knights think you're so cute with the tags, it's actually hilarious.
    at least people are trying can't take that out.
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  4. #10964
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    Maltothoris's Avatar
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    Malto Thoris
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I'm actually going to retract an earlier statement of sch maybe getting a potential buff or two. I say that cause throughout almoat all of ffxiv, sch was always the top dog. It was better than noct astro when it appeared and then also better than sge that sge had to get buffs through all of ew and even into DT's first patches. Now m6s is here and until you reach 90th to 100, Sge is better than sch there.
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  5. #10965
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    I'm actually going to retract an earlier statement of sch maybe getting a potential buff or two. I say that cause throughout almoat all of ffxiv, sch was always the top dog. It was better than noct astro when it appeared and then also better than sge that sge had to get buffs through all of ew and even into DT's first patches. Now m6s is here and until you reach 90th to 100, Sge is better than sch there.
    Honestly that’s only because SCH’s AOE is really badly designed for what the adds phase asks of you as the shield healer

    Otherwise it’s still the same song and dance, SGE’s DPS is better in uncoordinated, SCH’s in coordinated, SCH’s healing kit still puts the other three healers to absolute shame with its raw level of utility
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  6. #10966
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    miraidensetsu's Avatar
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    Luno Belfi
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Qyoon View Post
    The only way to get a company to listen to it's clients is to stop giving said company money.
    And that only works for small companies. Big companies - like Square-Enix - can just turn off all servers if players decides to play something else. And it wouldn't affect its core business as much as it would in small companies.

    So S-E have the luxury of ignoring its costumers and get away with it.

    All complaints is just hope and cope.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qyoon View Post
    Healers are complaining since years nothing changed while SQE worked on other jobs changes.
    This proves, for the dev team, it's fine as it is and can wait 2 more years until 8.0.
    While this could go even worse, no promises have been made about making this role interesting.

    To be honest the game might actually be better without healers at all, relying only on mecanics.
    And i am saying that while Sage if the only job i enjoy in FF XIV.
    Agreed.

    And if dev team thinks healers is fine as it is, don't expect any big change to healers coming at 8.0. It will be incremental at best or change nothing at worst.
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  7. #10967
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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Change will come the day limited races can wear hats without using a program that is not allowed.

    After the promise of new summoner pets and hats for Viera, I just gave up.
    (1)

  8. #10968
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    Kohashi's Avatar
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post

    So S-E have the luxury of ignoring its costumers and get away with it.

    All complaints is just hope and cope.
    No, it doesn't.

    FF14 is the sole reason SE is still around. Every single game they've put up in a really long time, including mobile games, has been either a net loss or hardly breaking the even point for them.

    They are starting to pick up a bit because they broke the glass and took out FF7 again. FF7 Ever Crisis is No. 41 in gacha revenue for March 2025.
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  9. #10969
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    Maelys Gyoji
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    Ragnarok
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    And that only works for small companies. Big companies - like Square-Enix - can just turn off all servers if players decides to play something else. And it wouldn't affect its core business as much as it would in small companies.

    So S-E have the luxury of ignoring its costumers and get away with it.
    They do not, FFXIV is actually a fair share of SQE revenue.
    They are actually not in such a great shape because a lot of their project are not selling so great or at least not as much as they wanted.
    And concidering the poor care they have for their customers outside of japan, this ain't really surprising and deserved.
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  10. #10970
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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Honestly that’s only because SCH’s AOE is really badly designed for what the adds phase asks of you as the shield healer

    Otherwise it’s still the same song and dance, SGE’s DPS is better in uncoordinated, SCH’s in coordinated, SCH’s healing kit still puts the other three healers to absolute shame with its raw level of utility
    The removal of the multiple DOTs, piling all the damage into a single DOT, and the consequent removal of Bane (due to it being not-as-useful, since there's only one DOT) was evidently a mistake. Imagine how much better SCH would keep up, if it had Bane and could spread its DOTs across the big add packs (eg the boss, the 4 Mus and the first Feather Ray, all during the raidbuff window that occurs there). Imagine how much better WHM would keep up, if it still had Aero 3
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