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  1. #10911
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    Azurarok's Avatar
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    Medim Azurarok
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    that feels a lot like healing before they changed scholar and one was a cohealer back in the day. I died inside because i knew I was on my own for healing as the scholar was typically just there as green dps (until SE changed that to the screams of all the green dps scholars)
    turns out healers that refuse to heal can't be eliminated as long as the trade-off with dps exists. Pretty sure EW making free healing so accessible across the role only made the problem worse.

    I'd love to go back and remove the excessive free healing we have now and just learn to deal with the occasional green dpser, though at the same time I wonder if we couldn't just have several styles, with WHM and SCH constantly weighing healing and dps while AST mostly gets by with oGCD healing and SGE gets fully dps-neutral to positive healing when played right.
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  2. #10912
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    Maltothoris's Avatar
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    Character
    Malto Thoris
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Just have to bring this again to the front page. Haven gotten to m8s p1 enrage, the only truly threating move in that fight is the tremors. You have to move so much mit around you won't have a lot up for it. Other than that, it becomes very easy to map how you are going to approach the fight.
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  3. #10913
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    Even with the increased speed of the fight, my M8S still had 191 casts of Dosis. Over the course of prog, I think I pressed Toxikon more times in that fight than all of Endwalker, so it had that going for it, at least. But again, once we're geared, the difficulty will fall away as it always does
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  4. #10914
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    Damn, 4 days since the last reply? Either SE announced that the Healer role will be getting massive changes that fix all the problems it has had for the past 5 years (and I missed said announcement), or M6S adds were so rough that everyone's now convinced that 'actually this is what the role needed all along, Healing gameplay is fun again!' (which doesn't really help with how unengaging it is to do UnderSleep in the EX roulette on a Healer)
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  5. #10915
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    Qyoon's Avatar
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    Character
    Qi Yun
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    almost 1100 page and SQE don't care i think people just got bored.
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  6. #10916
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    Character
    Alice Rivers
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    That or they're playing other games.
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  7. #10917
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    Qyoon's Avatar
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    Character
    Qi Yun
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers View Post
    That or they're playing other games.
    Both can be possible, getting bored of SQE ignoring the playerbase don't mean you can't play the game.
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  8. #10918
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    J'thaldi Rhid
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Damn, 4 days since the last reply? Either SE announced that the Healer role will be getting massive changes that fix all the problems it has had for the past 5 years (and I missed said announcement), or M6S adds were so rough that everyone's now convinced that 'actually this is what the role needed all along, Healing gameplay is fun again!' (which doesn't really help with how unengaging it is to do UnderSleep in the EX roulette on a Healer)
    I don't see a need to rehash what has been discussed for years already.

    The only recent thing that changed is their brand new shiny encounter design, and that hasn't fixed a single thing wrong with the healer role, that's all there is to it.
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  9. #10919
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Character
    Rhaya Jakkya
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Eventually things will cycle around to screaming into the void as the devs only solution to stopping tanks from having too much healing and things not generally hitting hard enough is buffing tanks.
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    Last edited by CaptainLagbeard; 04-15-2025 at 02:52 AM.

  10. #10920
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    Character
    Wise Fuchsia
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    At this point I'm not just bored of Healers, the PvE design is a bloated mess compared to the tight and flavorful PvP kits (though those could maybe use another ability or two for some Jobs).
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