#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Aword3213]

Maybe if more healers just learned how to actually heal the healing intensive mechs we actually get, the devs wouldn't have to give everyone else more substantial sustain to compensate.

Meanwhile DPS fail dps checks all the time, why didn't healer get 1500 potency OGCD per 15 seconds to compansate?

Tanks don't mitigate properly all the time, even in high end contents. Why shouldn't healers get to have skills that provokes the target, and, at the same time, quadruple our hp and grant 50% mitigation on 60s cooldown to compansate?

[Kayokane]

Meanwhile DPS fail dps checks all the time, why didn't healer get 1500 potency OGCD per 15 seconds to compansate?

Tanks don't mitigate properly all the time, even in high end contents. Why shouldn't healers get to have skills that provokes the target, and, at the same time, quadruple our hp and grant 50% mitigation on 60s cooldown to compansate?

Have you ever heard of Our Lord And Saviour, The Blood Lily, Afflatus Misery, per chance?

[Jojoya]

Have you ever heard of Our Lord And Saviour, The Blood Lily, Afflatus Misery, per chance?

I don't have anything to heal so the Blood Lily can be fed. This group knows how to stay out of avoidable damage and the tank keeps self-healing automatically.

It's bad design if we're stuck using oGCDs in a wasteful fashion in order to get to a powerful damaging ability for the lack of anything better to do.

Imagine if that tank wasn't doing any self-healing. Mitigation might reduce damage taken but not eliminate it completely. It would start to add up and I would have a chance to feed my Blood Lily in the proper manner.

The problem is not healer damage or healer toolkit design. The problem is the lack of damage going to the party for healers to heal. The problem is other jobs being able to self-heal through their standard rotations so what little there was to heal gets taken care without healer assistance. The developers are designing combat jobs and content as if healers do not exist.

[Kayokane]

I don't have anything to heal so the Blood Lily can be fed. This group knows how to stay out of avoidable damage and the tank keeps self-healing automatically.

It's bad design if we're stuck using oGCDs in a wasteful fashion in order to get to a powerful damaging ability for the lack of anything better to do.

Imagine if that tank wasn't doing any self-healing. Mitigation might reduce damage taken but not eliminate it completely. It would start to add up and I would have a chance to feed my Blood Lily in the proper manner.

The problem is not healer damage or healer toolkit design. The problem is the lack of damage going to the party for healers to heal. The problem is other jobs being able to self-heal through their standard rotations so what little there was to heal gets taken care without healer assistance. The developers are designing combat jobs and content as if healers do not exist.

Rapture is a better spell for tight movement than Slide Casting Glare is, it also helps with MP management on 0 Pie, mid/high SpS builds... by all accounts the only wasteful way to use Lilies is to let them over-cap because theirs nothing to heal.

[PercibelTheren]

Meanwhile DPS fail dps checks all the time, why didn't healer get 1500 potency OGCD per 15 seconds to compansate?

Tanks don't mitigate properly all the time, even in high end contents. Why shouldn't healers get to have skills that provokes the target, and, at the same time, quadruple our hp and grant 50% mitigation on 60s cooldown to compansate?

This is something that irks me, tbh - the unfairness of it all. Only healers get punished for some people being bad at the role. Bad tanks straight up get carried by good healers in the vast majority of content. If the DPS don't do their jobs properly and the boss enrages, nobody makes a big deal out of that, either. Why are healers singled out like this?

[UnconfirmedCat]

it's that ez

[Menriq]

This is something that irks me, tbh - the unfairness of it all. Only healers get punished for some people being bad at the role. Bad tanks straight up get carried by good healers in the vast majority of content. If the DPS don't do their jobs properly and the boss enrages, nobody makes a big deal out of that, either. Why are healers singled out like this?

This is answered in a whole separate topic, but the bolded part does happen.

[Jamini]

I've already stopped healing for the most part and already have BRD locked in for DT raiding.

Hard to boycott when you already do something more interesting.

[Xeronia]

While I may not main a healer I do usually play every expansion with someone who mains AST and they are not excited at all for these changes and they feel the lack of being heard for years on end. I wish you all luck as no game should have feedback being unheard for years on end like this.

[Nanananami773]

Hello, I am from the Japanese community.
I use a translation tool so sorry if my English is poor.
There was a post in the Japan forum informing me about this thread and I learned of this shocking move.

First of all, I would like to state that these are my personal thoughts and not the consensus of the Japanese community.
I'm sorry that I may not be able to reply very often, as I really need to use a translation tool to communicate with you.


Regarding the issue of healers' attack rotation being too monotonous, Japanese players' reaction is quite different from yours.
Almost no one has a problem with the attack rotation.
I don't know why they think differently than you do, but one opinion I sometimes see is “if you want to attack, just play DPS”.
I don't recall seeing a more specific discussion in the Japanese forum than this opinion.

Unfortunately, your opinion will not be accepted in the Japanese forum.
But I am not going to disagree with you guys.
I usually play mainly as a healer in Extreme and Savage (etc.), but I also play as a DPS or tank if I want something different and exciting.
When pointed out to me, I have a feeling that this “when I want a different excitement” may stem from the fact that the healer's attacks are too simple, and I feel it when I get tired of them.
However, I myself do not see the need to change anything about the attack spells.
I may need some more time to think about it.

For now, I will just be very curious about the differences in opinion between the Japanese and English communities and will keep an eye on what happens in the future.
Thank you.