#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Supersnow845]

Well, not really in fact.
AST is just a WHM with buff and delayed action instead of direct one (Earthly Star and Horoscope are dealyed/timed version of Assize and Thin Air for exemple)
The same, SGE is just a more straightfoward version of SCH overall.

of coure, there is some others difference, but in end, the core of AST and SGE are based on their predecessor.

Yes we “have” 4 healers, in reality we have 1 healer

That’s my entire point

[Aravell]

Regardless, that gave me 2nd hand embarrassment. After writing the same obtuse song and dance that’s been loitering for 5+ years across several pages ago, then decides the giant thread is a collection of alts. So whose alt am I? :P

You're Supersnow's alt, obviously, we all are.

Joking aside, that's the general go-to response to dismiss anything one doesn't like on these forums.

"No one agrees with you, it's just you and 50 of your alts!"

Generally people resort to that argument when they don't actually have a valid point to put forward, it is what it is.

[Kohashi]

Ah, so that's why some of the people who disagreed eventually disappeared, they were assimilated into the Supersnow consciousness and now are one of the alts.

You guys are cringe as hell, holy F..

Forums represent a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the player base. Thinking you are representative of anything is just hilarious.

You can discuss, suggest stuff, or disagree with how things are designed but please do a reality check before you start saying.. OMG, we have 1k pages then it means SE should change things. Most of you cannot come up with a competent idea or anything even worthee to look at let alone implement it.

[Supersnow845]

You guys are cringe as hell, holy F..

Forums represent a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the player base. Thinking you are representative of anything is just hilarious.

You can discuss, suggest stuff, or disagree with how things are designed but please do a reality check before you start saying.. OMG, we have 1k pages then it means SE should change things. Most of you cannot come up with a competent idea or anything even worthee to look at let alone implement it.

So you accuse us of all being alts and when we laugh at the implications we are the cringey ones and this somehow means square should implement our suggestions because this thread is 1k pages

I don’t know whether this nonsensical leap in logic is better or worse than you accusing a fraction of a fraction of trying to dictate the game then unilaterally declare that every idea we have ever had is terrible. Like have you ever actually explained your stance on healer design

[Saraide]

I imagine they mistook the forum join date as the date Supersnow starts playing, so they could be misinformed.

Regardless, that gave me 2nd hand embarrassment. After writing the same obtuse song and dance that’s been loitering for 5+ years across several pages ago, then decides the giant thread is a collection of alts. So whose alt am I? :P

The same song and dance, again and again. Apparently we’re not only playing DDR in-game, but also in the forums.

A lot of the weirdos that came in have no idea how the forum works (mistaking forum face for main account, getting confused by base classes in profiles, etc)

[Calysto]

My sub runs out soon, who want to be my alt ? You just need bad/convoluted ideas and holding SE/Y.P. to the BS they promised but didn't deliver XD

[Aravell]

So you accuse us of all being alts and when we laugh at the implications we are the cringey ones and this somehow means square should implement our suggestions because this thread is 1k pages

I don’t know whether this nonsensical leap in logic is better or worse than you accusing a fraction of a fraction of trying to dictate the game then unilaterally declare that every idea we have ever had is terrible. Like have you ever actually explained your stance on healer design

I don't think anyone who can confidently declare all our ideas bad and not worth it has ever read a single word of anything we wrote and are somehow trying to argue from a crumbling platform.

Because if someone declares all our ideas worthless and bad, they are declaring a very, very large portion of design space worthless and bad. Anyone who actually read our ideas would see there's a lot of different designs and ways to expand the kit, even SCH alone has like 5 different suggested designs by 5 different people.

[Kohashi]

So you accuse us of all being alts and when we laugh at the implications we are the cringey ones and this somehow means square should implement our suggestions because this thread is 1k pages

I don’t know whether this nonsensical leap in logic is better or worse than you accusing a fraction of a fraction of trying to dictate the game then unilaterally declare that every idea we have ever had is terrible. Like have you ever actually explained your stance on healer design

Just stop, or actually don't, it makes great material to read in the morning while on the toilet.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

My sub runs out soon, who want to be my alt ? You just need bad/convoluted ideas and holding SE/Y.P. to the BS they promised but didn't deliver XD

I can be Callistwo E'elyaa! XD

I don't think anyone who can confidently declare all our ideas bad and not worth it has ever read a single word of anything we wrote and are somehow trying to argue from a crumbling platform.

Because if someone declares all our ideas worthless and bad, they are declaring a very, very large portion of design space worthless and bad. Anyone who actually read our ideas would see there's a lot of different designs and ways to expand the kit, even SCH alone has like 5 different suggested designs by 5 different people.

To emphasize this, they don't even need to dig real deep. Just take one of those links plastered on the first page and take their time reading. There's a lot been written across 5-8 years.

Oh what's that? Lazy to read? (not to you specifically). I mean hey, that's valid. But suddenly they're nonexistent or unilaterally irreconcilable?

[Aravell]

I do find it incredibly amusing that people would loudly proclaim that there's absolutely not a single thing wrong with one of the worst class designs in gaming, a design that has failed to accomplish its main objective of enticing a lot of new players to pick up healing and also a design that has been bashed by some of said new players as being horrendously boring.

It's also funny when they dismiss all the suggested designs that add interactivity to healer kits and also give the player skill expression as worthless and bad design, while championing actually bad design that gives the player no room for growth and also doesn't even make it any easier for an inexperienced healer.