speak with your wallet if you feel unheard

[sindriiisgaming]

so ofc with DT on the literal horizon line, a slew of threads and posts complaining that the game isnt doing enough to cater to them. look. naoki yoshida explained why he wont be tackling job homogenization until after 7.0

the reality is its simply to much of a massive overhaul to make the combat different and increase difficulty. the potential bad reaction from players especially the casual 80% or so could put the whole conversation into indefinite suspension.

I understand that 90% of you here will not be satisfied with this answer. but i don't think your actually taking the time to think about the impact on the game as a whole. you, we, all of us NEED these casual players. they fill our fcs, make our roulettes pop, they talk to us in NN or become our friends, they help us glamour farm and keep the pf alive with always needing something else.

i really dont think for 5 minutes that anybody here has gone unheard. we wanted the game harder, and while we dont have much. from what we can see its gona be harder... so why isnt this a win? why isnt 1 small step enough? i can only imagine how hard it must be having to make some of the decisions he does.

but i just keep seeing so many people here, unhappy with the game, and taking joy in the idea that 80% of the players might quit when things get to different. instead of them just leaving themselves if THEY are unhappy, which given all the complaints. they seem to be.

[LianaThorne]

Just gonna drop this study here again. I personally don't like the direction the game is heading but it makes sense from this viewpoint if this research is anything to stand by. More and more gamers aren't interested in deep thinking or complex strategy and it's been on a downward trend for like 10 years.

https://quanticfoundry.com/2024/05/21/strategy-decline/
Gamers Have Become Less Interested in Strategic Thinking and Planning

[Immut]

Just gonna drop this study here again. I personally don't like the direction the game is heading but it makes sense from this viewpoint if this research is anything to stand by. More and more gamers aren't interested in deep thinking or complex strategy and it's been on a downward trend for like 10 years.

https://quanticfoundry.com/2024/05/21/strategy-decline/
Gamers Have Become Less Interested in Strategic Thinking and Planning

I think there's a pretty big gulf between an actual "strategy" game like Civilization VI where you plan your game hours in advance and wanting more than one button to push in an action game.

[Jojoya]

I think there's a pretty big gulf between an actual "strategy" game like Civilization VI where you plan your game hours in advance and wanting more than one button to push in an action game.

You have more than one button to push.

This isn't an action game. It's a role-playing game where combat is just one of many activities.

It's rather ironic that this game actually has more buttons you need to push than most action games and yet you pretend there is only one button to push.

[AnimalsALot]

Just gonna drop this study here again. I personally don't like the direction the game is heading but it makes sense from this viewpoint if this research is anything to stand by. More and more gamers aren't interested in deep thinking or complex strategy and it's been on a downward trend for like 10 years.

https://quanticfoundry.com/2024/05/21/strategy-decline/
Gamers Have Become Less Interested in Strategic Thinking and Planning

Gamers ARE getting stupider

[Niroken]

Gamers ARE getting stupider

Personally I don't put that all of the people playing the games. Why make harder/intelligent game design when you can get the player hooked on spending with micro-transactions for a quick dopamine rush.

[AlucaDragonheart]

The thing is, we don't want the jobs to be extremely difficult or whatever, we just want them to be unique and fun to play, that's all. All the tanks are basically Warrior clones now, with the only difference between them, is which weapon type do you prefer to use.

[NegativeS]

Telling an MMO player to vote with their wallet is like telling an American to stop drinking soda. You can't. It's like crack to them, by design, because the only people still supporting the industry are addicts.

Source: I'm American

[Zrei]

i really dont think for 5 minutes that anybody here has gone unheard.

Healer changes have gone unheard for about 6 years or more

from what we can see its gona be harder... so why isnt this a win? why isnt 1 small step enough?

CBU3 has been promising the game will be harder for a long time and it just hasn't been the case. Why should I believe them after so many failed attempts at actually raising the difficulty? Especially when almost all job changes have made efforts to strip difficulty or give less player expression in gameplay?

the reality is its simply to much of a massive overhaul to make the combat different and increase difficulty.

Yoshi P's stance is reasonable if the changes were just minor improvements to many Endwalker jobs and their design but why are they full on overhauling some for the worse? Did Black Mage really need mini-rework? Based on what Yoshi P said I would assume almost all jobs would be getting the same style changes that MCH got. And some did, but others got it way worse.

taking joy in the idea that 80% of the players might quit when things get to different.

Maybe for some, but for everyone I have interacted with, its been anger and sadness. The game that has been such a big part of my life is making decisions for the worse and may be in an awful state to play for the next 2-3 years. MY favorite job being gutted and the thematics and flavor of it waning.


As a healer I have been told time and time again to just "wait for next rework, expansion, patch. It will be fixed for sure." And at this point I'm tired.
I would love to be proven wrong but the team has made no efforts to SHOW me it will be better, all they do is keep telling me to WAIT for it to be better.

[Doublejho]

i already redeemed my pre-order bonus unfortunately, otherwise i was genuinely considering not playing, unsubbing and letting my FC friends know my house would be up for grabs