Sage: Media Tour Feedback

[churchren]

SE please review the potencies of Toxicon and Pneuma
With the new trait buffing Dosis 3 to 360 potency, that puts Toxicon and Pneuma at small DPS loss
IMO, it would best to ensure all 3 of them remain the same potency to ensure that min/max gameplay doesn't create unnecessary stress

[Kissune]

sage mains really will just freak out at the first sign of opportunity cost huh

[Laerune]

Both dots stack, this with Kardia means more pew pew for us. SAGE is winning.

[WaxSw]

sage mains really will just freak out at the first sign of opportunity cost huh

I mean if they were free in the previous expansion why not in the following? It's pretty obvious that is a SE oversight and in the case of toxikon the least thing that mechanic needs is less incentives to use it

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I mean if they were free in the previous expansion why not in the following? It's pretty obvious that is a SE oversight and in the case of toxikon the least thing that mechanic needs is less incentives to use it

Internet never forget their oopsies lol

As an example from the past...

Pay 200 extra MP for diff VFX :3c

[SweetestLily]

sage mains really will just freak out at the first sign of opportunity cost huh

Do I smell sage main jealousy?

[Teno]

sage mains really will just freak out at the first sign of opportunity cost huh

Yes sage mains like to do things other 1-1-1 you know, like what's been heavily criticized for years... Also opportunity cost my a**, toxikon requires stacks, and pneuma is a gcd. It's ruin 2 which is the odd one instead.

[ty_taurus]

Toxikon was already an embarrassment of game design before. Now it’s just insulting.

[Zaytex]

Ironically Sage got the best changes going into Dawntrail. A new DPS button every minute, which is something people were asking for the 2 minute cooldowns to be changed too... and a second DOT to manage which is a slight DPS gain on a single target (40x10 = 400 vs 360 dosis). Not an incredible amount of potency of course, but gives room for optimization and something to manage. Philosophia is fine, definitely not as strong as Seraphism, or even interesting since it's just AOE Kardia + heal buff, and returns you back to dosis mashing quicker... but hey, 2 new DPS buttons? That's amazing for SE standards (rofl).

Toxikon was already an embarrassment of game design before. Now it’s just insulting.

All they need to do is increase the potency. Make it DPS neutral or a gain, to reward the SGE for actually shielding it's party.

[Kissune]

Yes sage mains like to do things other 1-1-1 you know, like what's been heavily criticized for years... Also opportunity cost my a**, toxikon requires stacks, and pneuma is a gcd. It's ruin 2 which is the odd one instead.

Please look up what opportunity cost means. Toxicon and pneuma do not have opportunity cost in EW, as you are not losing anything (ie, you are not losing the value of a dosis) by using them.

Do I smell sage main jealousy?

No, not really. My main is dead for other reasons, if anything I'm happy for Sage getting an actually well-designed kit for once. Opportunity cost is good, forcing you to weigh sacrifices vs value generated, which encourages you to think about where things go and if you can get by on things without cost alone. Pneuma should not be dps neutral, as it's a healing tool. If it's not neutral, there's a cost for using it. Toxicon is a movement tool, not a dps tool. It's the same as ruin 2, or even something like reprise, which I think is a completely fine ability. Toxicon should always have been a way to ease the pain of moving, by turning no dps into some dps. Instead, Sage gets to maintain full dps uptime even during most movement mechs... kinda just for fun.

I like these changes to Sage. I hope it remains in this state, and I hope the job is very popular bc it'll teach Square Enix that we do actually like older healing design instead of this overly streamlined blob without substance.