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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Especially considering the amount of:

    "Wait, lifetime discount for XIV if I get on this shit now and get Legacy? I don't care that I threw this game away a week after launch, SIGN ME UP!"

    Legacy members. I do believe they'll want as many people that haven't played XIV as possible because they'll in turn tell their friends that it's a good game if the beta isn't horribly broken and pretty much guaranteed to come at least a 1/4th close to XI's success rather than complete failure.
    um, i think you misunderstand the reason for betas too

    its still a test period, not an advertising period where you show people how good your game is

    they need a wide variety of people in game testing out to make sure everything works, that different systems can handle different things and so on

    sure you get to show people stuff too, but thats not the main point of it all, its to make sure a game is ready for launch and WORKS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    um, i think you misunderstand the reason for betas too
    No, I know exactly what a beta is. The more people who touch XIV that never touched it before, especially during it's testing period is a lot better than people who have been playing it the past 2 years.

    If the beta is polished, that can only mean the game itself will be which is why you'd tell your friends to keep an eye on a potentially good new MMO coming out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    No, I know exactly what a beta is. The more people who touch XIV that never touched it before, especially during it's testing period is a lot better than people who have been playing it the past 2 years.

    If the beta is polished, that can only mean the game itself will be which is why you'd tell your friends to keep an eye on a potentially good new MMO coming out.
    if its a closed beta, its not about polish though, which is what it sounds like is gonna be happening first

    open beta is moreso the polish end of things

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    if its a closed beta, its not about polish though, which is what it sounds like is gonna be happening first

    open beta is moreso the polish end of things
    Open beta is almost always about stress testing the server and see how the load is distributed against the new engine(s).

    Polish does come from feedback, but it's a part of the natural progression of what players want to talk about.

    many players think 'Oh, they want me to tell them how they can make their game more fun. so i'll talk about that.'

    and the feed back will go to the devs. but this feed back, if it is implemented, won't be seen for months. it has to be developed. tested internally. validated. and then released. Polish comes well after release, and well after beta.

    what will be implemented is emergency fixes to the UI. or ground breaking bugs/oversights. "I can fish up 100 fish in an hour. turn them into a hat. and NPC the hat and make 2m gil an hour." or "If i move the minimap partway off the screen, it glitches out and doesn't refresh my position"
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    Sadly beta = early preview to this generation of MMO players because that's exactly what the companies consider their beta. They only use the term beta to cover their asses if their demo is broken in any way so the press won't hop on their ass about a broken game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Sadly beta = early preview to this generation of MMO players because that's exactly what the companies consider their beta. They only use the term beta to cover their asses if their demo is broken in any way so the press won't hop on their ass about a broken game.
    Well SE seems to do stress testing with it. But they ought to do more of that 'cause launch was a nightmare with all the crashing servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Sadly beta = early preview to this generation of MMO players because that's exactly what the companies consider their beta. They only use the term beta to cover their asses if their demo is broken in any way so the press won't hop on their ass about a broken game.
    There is more then 1 type of beta though, and alot of people dont know the difference


    open betas are commonly used for that

    but closed betas are not, closed betas are extremely limited and have that nasty NDA you gotta watch out for

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    There is more then 1 type of beta though, and alot of people dont know the difference


    open betas are commonly used for that

    but closed betas are not, closed betas are extremely limited and have that nasty NDA you gotta watch out for
    Sadly Elexia is still accurate in her statement, a majority of people who do go into closed beta do it to "test" the game out, and then you wonder why an MMO falls under when it comes out. It's because out of the 5-10k they got to test it only 30 take the time to actually give input or work on posting bugs while the others just test the game out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Sadly Elexia is still accurate in her statement, a majority of people who do go into closed beta do it to "test" the game out, and then you wonder why an MMO falls under when it comes out. It's because out of the 5-10k they got to test it only 30 take the time to actually give input or work on posting bugs while the others just test the game out.
    but that still doesnt change the fact of how open vs closed betas are run

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    I would expect at the very least legacy accounts will all have access to the 2.0 beta and a high possibility of everyone with an account when the servers go down will get access.
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