The changes to Astrologian are upsetting

[ASkellington]

You're asking for pvp. Go play pvp. Thats where you play a game of crowd control, and pacifies, and damage downs, and all those random things that do not fit into FFXIV PVE. The new healing/mitigation buttons are all very useful in savage raids. Any savage raider should see how useful they will be, especially if the raids compensate for the new mitigation tools. Remember they said they would add stress back into the game. They're not going to give more healing tools and not make the fights more damaging. Even in EW they made the fights more damaging than shadowbringers, but how easily people forget that. Only rough part is that they design healing around OGCD's instead of GCD's, but thats not gonna change in DT.

They gave more healing tools in EW and didn't up damage what so ever. We had just about the same amount of unavoidable damage as ever, the same amount of frequency in attacks (which isn't enough to stress out 1 healer, let alone 2), I KNOW they didn't account for the healing tools we had due to all the "nerf Macrocosmos" we had when the second tier of raids dropped.

You yourself even admited that they design healing around oGCDs and not making me dip into GCDs and adding in 4 more oGCD tools in the form of cards makes that worse. If they aren't going to make me half to dip into my GCDs, then the healing requirements aren't increased. And if they aren't increased, then these tools ARE USELESS AND UNNECESSARY.

[Zolvolt]

They gave more healing tools in EW and didn't up damage what so ever. We had just about the same amount of unavoidable damage as ever, the same amount of frequency in attacks (which isn't enough to stress out 1 healer, let alone 2), I KNOW they didn't account for the healing tools we had due to all the "nerf Macrocosmos" we had when the second tier of raids dropped.

You yourself even admited that they design healing around oGCDs and not making me dip into GCDs and adding in 4 more oGCD tools in the form of cards makes that worse. If they aren't going to make me half to dip into my GCDs, then the healing requirements aren't increased. And if they aren't increased, then these tools ARE USELESS AND UNNECESSARY.

Yes they did increase damage in endwalker. Just look at how they did tank busters this expansion. If you're not using your healing OGCD's in savage you're not playing very well is all I can really say about your claims. Single target tank damage has been at an all time high this expansion, both tanks simultaneously getting trucked has given ample opportunities to use both exaltations, both intersections AND exalatation to great effect this expansion. There are even fights where using CU and CO just to heal up tank damage was ideal (p7s for example had many of these instances). All thats to say is there is plenty of room for more single target heals and mitigation and if you're not utilizing your tools then you're doing something wrong.

[ASkellington]

Yes they did increase damage in endwalker. Just look at how they did tank busters this expansion.

Nothing I say is going to change your mind. You like the current AST and that's fine. I don't. I want changes and I'm going to ask for those changes.

I don't find mitigation and heals on cards when I have them IN MY BASE KIT THAT I ALREADY DON'T USE to be good changes. They aren't even decent. They're tone deaf, when the dev team has heard for now 2 expansions we want more damaging abilities and LESS HEALING abilities and MORE REASONS TO USE said healing abilities.

Once again, YOU YOURSELF ADMITTED that the dev team isn't going to increase the damage to make us use our GCDs. They didn't do that in ENDWALKER and they aren't going to do that in DAWNTRAIL. They also increased mitigation on top of that so hooray we're going to have no healer EX clears Day or Week 1 again and perhaps the same for Savage because HARDER HITTING ENEMIES is not what healers need to be relevent. We need enemies to HIT MORE OFTEN, telegraphs to go to a minimum, unavoidable damage akin to Barbie EX AND THEN SOME and MAYBE I'll see these card changes as useful.

Until then, they're all dead to me. As they deserve to be.

[Zolvolt]

Nothing I say is going to change your mind. You like the current AST and that's fine. I don't. I want changes and I'm going to ask for those changes.

I don't find mitigation and heals on cards when I have them IN MY BASE KIT THAT I ALREADY DON'T USE to be good changes. They aren't even decent. They're tone deaf, when the dev team has heard for now 2 expansions we want more damaging abilities and LESS HEALING abilities and MORE REASONS TO USE said healing abilities.

Once again, YOU YOURSELF ADMITTED that the dev team isn't going to increase the damage to make us use our GCDs. They didn't do that in ENDWALKER and they aren't going to do that in DAWNTRAIL. They also increased mitigation on top of that so hooray we're going to have no healer EX clears Day or Week 1 again and perhaps the same for Savage because HARDER HITTING ENEMIES is not what healers need to be relevent. We need enemies to HIT MORE OFTEN, telegraphs to go to a minimum, unavoidable damage akin to Barbie EX AND THEN SOME and MAYBE I'll see these card changes as useful.

Until then, they're all dead to me. As they deserve to be.

The type of healer changes you want (and honestly I want them to change to more GCD healing as well) just aren't in the scope of this expansion. They said combat was going to stay the same so I don't understand why you're so upset by that. They told us this would be the case.

[ASkellington]

The type of healer changes you want (and honestly I want them to change to more GCD healing as well) just aren't in the scope of this expansion. They said combat was going to stay the same so I don't understand why you're so upset by that. They told us this would be the case.

I don't care they said "wait until 8.0". I've been waiting since 5.3. Changes to healing gameplay should have happened IN ENDWALKER, in DAWNTRAIL. Not some far flung expansion years later because they didn't even ACKNOWLEDGE there was a problem until the healer shortage of EW.

All I hear is an excuse that the player base has been giving for 2 expansions and I don't want to hear it anymore. Its not that hard to NOT introduce extra healing across all healers, to NOT increase the mitigations of tanks that don't need it, to NERF things like Shake it Off (over time) and Bloodwhetting and to increase the damage frequency ALL BEFORE ADDING MORE UNNEEDING HEALING AND MITIGATION TOOLS.

All of those are PERFECTLY in the scope of this expansion. They're excuse is just that - an excuse and a poor one. Stop defending their crap design for healers when that's what put us in this place to begin with.

[RodP]

The type of healer changes you want (and honestly I want them to change to more GCD healing as well) just aren't in the scope of this expansion. They said combat was going to stay the same so I don't understand why you're so upset by that. They told us this would be the case.

So if I said I was going to punch you and then did it, you can't be upset because I gave you a notice before doing it, right?