THE STATE OF JOB DESIGN IN 2024 FF14

[sindriiisgaming]

>Just wait until skill showcase, it's not going to be that bad

>Just wait until live letter explanation, it's not going to be that bad

>Just wait until tooltips release, it's not going to be that bad

>Just wait until early access, it's not going to be that bad [YOU ARE HERE]

>Just wait until savage balance patch, it's not going to be that bad

>Just wait until next expansion's skill showcase, it's surely going to be better

>Repeat from start

well why not just leave then in protest, i mean your the guy who in a different thread wanted all the "casuals and Fragile people" to leave the game. why should they. your the one whos unhappy... lol. why is it not okay the game caters to them, but when u want it to cater to you instead of them suddenly thats completely fine.

[Supersnow845]

well why not just leave then in protest, i mean your the guy who in a different thread wanted all the "casuals and Fragile people" to leave the game. why should they. your the one whos unhappy... lol. why is it not okay the game caters to them, but when u want it to cater to you instead of them suddenly thats completely fine.

Because if jobs had low floors and high ceilings with different jobs offering slightly different levels of both you could literally appeal to everyone. The problem of modern jobs and modern design is coming from the fact that none of the jobs seem to be allowed to have any sort of optimisation or skill ceiling. Being forced into incredibly rigid jobs and massive dilution of the trinity in content that’s designed for casuals (not a bad thing necessarily to be designed for casual) gets incredibly stale really quickly and the DT changes aren’t helping

[Somnolence]

No real substantial changes as usual and yet people will lap it up. Terrible

BLM was changed a bit and look at the reaction.

[Aravell]

Being forced into incredibly rigid jobs and massive dilution of the trinity in content that’s designed for casuals (not a bad thing necessarily to be designed for casual) gets incredibly stale really quickly and the DT changes aren’t helping

This is a very important point to emphasise.

Designing jobs for casuals isn't a bad thing.
But catering jobs to casuals is a bad thing.

Designing jobs so casuals can play them is fine, because that means the job is accessible and anyone can pick it up and play it decently enough.

Where the problem comes in is when they cater the job designs to the casual player. If they do this, it's no longer related to accessibility, it just becomes melding the skill ceiling into the skill floor so anyone can pick up any job and be perfect at it within an hour. This is not good design because you're alienating the chunk of players who want to work towards mastery and not have it handed to them.

If Yoshi P truly wants FFXIV to be an MMO for everyone, he should take both sides into consideration and not just make every job extremely easy and then segregate people into different content depending on skill level.

[MagiusNecros]

Doubling down on the 2 minute meta was critical error in judgment methinks.

[Immut]

are we going to pretend endwalker didnt do this either?

No why would we do that? That's kind of the whole point here, they're continuing the bad job design that started in shadowbringers, continued through endwalker, and now is even worse in dawntrail

[Oizen]

Its basically Shadowbringers 3.

I don't think the game has the budget to do anything other than follow set formulas, especially with SE pissing away all their money on flop after flop

[Moqi]

Just unsub then?

Already have. Jobs are still terrible though.

[rawker]

I don't even think they can deliver in 8.0 with this job identities they're brewing when they've dug themselves a pit so deep that it's too late for them to reach the veterans and tick the casuals they pandered to.

I'm not gonna be surprised if they'll introduce auto-battle in 8.0 because even logging in the game induces stress

[Immut]

Its basically Shadowbringers 3.

I don't think the game has the budget to do anything other than follow set formulas, especially with SE pissing away all their money on flop after flop

Don't worry they have a thriving mobile division to...oh wait.