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  1. #1
    Player
    Tsurayu's Avatar
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    May 2014
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    Gridania
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    149
    Character
    Yuki Furostomi
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    What exactly did people expect?

    The class was entirely redone for Endwalker. Did you really think it was going to get a bunch of changes for Dawntrail after all the work they put into it? Same with Paladin to a lesser degree and the people complaining about how similar it is. Yeah. And? It was almost as big of a redo in Endwalker. We don't fundamentally change the classes every expansion unless our name is Astrologian. <.<
    (1)

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    Kazamaiya's Avatar
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    Oct 2020
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Faria Kazamayia
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsurayu View Post
    Did you really think it was going to get a bunch of changes for Dawntrail
    Yes, actually.

    A new Expansion is supposed to be the time when we get evolutions for the jobs and when feedback gets addressed.
    What constitutes as 'A bunch' is always up to interpretation and personal definitions, but i think most people expected more than this.
    (11)

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    Emitans's Avatar
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    Character
    Farinrin Farin
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsurayu View Post
    What exactly did people expect?

    The class was entirely redone for Endwalker. Did you really think it was going to get a bunch of changes for Dawntrail after all the work they put into it? Same with Paladin to a lesser degree and the people complaining about how similar it is. Yeah. And? It was almost as big of a redo in Endwalker. We don't fundamentally change the classes every expansion unless our name is Astrologian. <.<
    I was kind of hoping they would finish the job since they stopped at like level 50 in Endwalker.
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    halcywalcy's Avatar
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    Character
    Halcyon Dimitrescu
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    People weren't hoping for changes they at least were hoping for new additions to this bland job after they gutted it. But all were getting is a new ogcd every 2 minutes
    (2)

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    Shenlao's Avatar
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    Character
    Yulao Zhuen
    World
    Raiden
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 31
    Still struggling to make peace with playing Bahamut Mage for ~2.5 years. Def feels like they skimped out hard on doing anything for summoner. It feels like the only healthy option one has is finding a different job to play.
    (5)

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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Character
    Alarasong Elaha
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 91
    Ahhh, I remember back on EW launch when people were coping with how simple new SMN was by saying it was just a base for them to build on. Well here we are, they slapped on a single new bahamut shaped brick and called it a day.
    (12)

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    CasterSvarog's Avatar
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    Jul 2021
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Kristina Svarog
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    I know I wasn’t expecting anything, but damn I’m still disappointed.
    8.0 Copium?
    (8)
    God I miss ShB SMN like a widow.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE Healers deserve better
    • Give more dps buttons to healers
    • Remove or significantly Nerf most healing skills from tanks and dps
    • Make the party take damage more often

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    Router's Avatar
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    Character
    Router Modem
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    The SMN update being something an intern probably came up with in 30 minutes is hilarious to me
    Perhaps adding more than 1 reskinned primal would take too much dev time? I don't even know, man
    (4)

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    Memyx's Avatar
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    Mar 2019
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    Bakool Ja Ja's place
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    Character
    Memyx Vermillion
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    I've played every iteration of SMN since ARR, and this is still by far my favorite in terms of job fantasy fulfillment and gameplay. I don't think simple/easy is inherently bad. Solar Bahamut is also just a very welcome addition in my book, because he shows an evolution of what the FFXIV SMN does. Where before we just channel the powers of past primals we've been exposed to, now we're taking what we've learned and mixing it together to create something new, and I think that's neat. That opens up a lot of possibilities, and I look forward to this whole "focus on job identity" they keep mentioning coming later on and seeing where they take this job.

    tl;dr, no complaints here.
    (2)

  10. #10
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    Dahlinea's Avatar
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    Jun 2015
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    Character
    Dahlinea Thriss
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    So it's the same braindead job as before... what a disappointment.

    I was hoping for some mechanical changes but it's pretty much the same... So much for "the rotation will change" that Yoshi-P said in the job action presentation during the letter. It's the same freaking thing with just a new Bahamut skin to press the same buttons again and a little combo with Searing Light that definitely won't make any consequence to the rotation, since you'll want to use it in the buff window anyways.

    Being a "turret of summons" with no substance is sadly the way from now on.
    (9)
    Last edited by Dahlinea; 06-07-2024 at 10:11 AM.
    It's all just Ruin.


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