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    SpiritMuse's Avatar
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    There's two types of genderlocked gear:

    There's the type that has two different items, each wearable by one gender.

    And there's the type that has only one item, technically wearable by both, but it looks wildly different depending on which gender wears it.

    They've taken amazing steps resolving the genderlocks of the first type. The second type, however, seems to only be getting worse, and it's not a good development.
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Slightly off question but... the DNC's 'shoes' are the long tight-length ending on that star motif and the shorts (or whatever the male counterpart has) are separate? Because that makes it a bit less jarring since I believe there are a few options to replicate that silhouette with alternatives for males.

    I don't mind the top, though, but I gotta say the default black-pink combination the male has is defnitely horrible because it looks like a mix-and match with something else. The default gradient should've had a very dark blue > Fuchsia scheme to blend better.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Slightly off question but... the DNC's 'shoes' are the long tight-length ending on that star motif and the shorts (or whatever the male counterpart has) are separate? Because that makes it a bit less jarring since I believe there are a few options to replicate that silhouette with alternatives for males.
    The DNC shoes are the thigh-length "baggy pants", yes. Which is why it's so weird that they felt the need to swap the shorts for longer pants when so little of them is visible.
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    Vari Myste
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The DNC shoes are the thigh-length "baggy pants", yes. Which is why it's so weird that they felt the need to swap the shorts for longer pants when so little of them is visible.
    SCH had the same thing happen where they replaced new shorts with long pants only to hide them with the tall bootpants anyway... it just doesn't make sense.
    Though in SCH case it looks like it might be a repeat of the RDM thing from before where it's still shorts but they put pants under them for some reason... before covering those with more boot. Male characters found dead in Tural due to heat stroke from wearing excessive layers.


    Like we already have several hundred iterations of long pants so I don't know why they keep adding what is essentially the same pair of pants over and over again, esp when fem versions actually get new glamours instead.

    I keep trying to think of what can even be done to get the AF's look for male characters. We only have a handful of shorts (most of which were added in Endwalker) and I think only two of them may be short enough for the SCH and DNC AF's high boots: the island sanctuary swim shorts which do not match the SCH vibe, or the load-bearing Expeditioner's Pantalettes which also don't have a very scholarly vibe but are probably the most viable alternative for both SCH and DNC even with the leather straps...

    The tonberry shorts are closer in aesthetic for SCH but it looks like they might be too long to pull off the same look since the boots are so high they'd likely just tuck into them.
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    Last edited by Sated; 06-10-2024 at 09:59 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sated View Post
    Like we already have several hundred iterations of long pants so I don't know why they keep adding what is essentially the same pair of pants over and over again, esp when fem versions actually get new glamours instead.
    Even with unisex glamours there's a dreadful degree of repetition of similar elements in the sets we get specifically for glamour. So many variants of plain belted pants, wrist-length gloves and business shoes.
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    Payne Leonhart
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    Easy fix, just use a fantasia then you can wear the other set.
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    Viedyn Shrilara
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1313 View Post
    Easy fix, just use a fantasia then you can wear the other set.
    I shouldn't be forced to change my entire character just to wear the gear they have been using to advertise a class. If they are going to design different versions of the same gear, players should have the option to wear either version, not be forced into one version.

    "Less options and less customization" is never going to be the winning argument for any MMO.
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    Leif Lin
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1313 View Post
    Easy fix, just use a fantasia then you can wear the other set.
    That's not an easy fix. Some of us are happy with who we are. In my case a Viera male. I already don't get hats. Now I'm being told to not be the gender I want if I want to wear designed artifact set we were shown at fanfest and during live letters? I have no issue showing my stomach, so why is that anyone else's business to determine I am required to wear a long black shirt OR change my gender with fantasias.. that cost money. These decisions are getting ridiculous. Seriously SE, stop gender locking and design gear that all races can wear. This has been a long time now. Years.
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    Percibel Theren
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1313 View Post
    Easy fix, just use a fantasia then you can wear the other set.
    But I don't want to play a female character. If I did, I would have made one. Percibel is not just a random avatar I use, he's a character who was originally created for DnD. Making him a woman just because SE makes male clothes ugly doesn't sit right with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1313 View Post
    Easy fix, just use a fantasia then you can wear the other set.
    im surpised people liked this comment, but regardless. isnt the point of creating a character to enjoy that race or gender? why should i be forced to be something i dont want to be just so i can show off some skin. thats wild
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    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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