Did tanks really need more healing

[Noox-115]

I swear lol when I heal I love to you know HEAL but since in dungeons now I mostly encounter WAR well I guess I will spam the one DPS button that I have. I will tell you what I LOVE to heal DRKs holy s-
the lack of healing they have make my blood as a healer boil and when DPSs get hit at the same time thats even better. Make me feel useful make me sweat from my forhead, make me have an heart attack when you use Superbolide after I used Benediction on you. I don't get this mindset that other healers have that is : I wish my party will be perfect and that I will have to do nothing

[CasterSvarog]

Like at the very freaking least nerf or remove the healing gained from the short cooldowns, Holy Sheltron, Raw Intuition, Bloodwhetting and Heart of Corundum. Like it would be one thing if the long 2 minute mits had it, its not often, but every 25 seconds is just way too freaking much.

[ASkellington]

Yes, give me more tools to assist my healers.

What do I need assistance with? Do you know how many healing tools I have? Do you know half of them, legit HALF OF THEM cost 0 mana?

Come Dawntrail, I will have 3 charges of Essential Dignity, 2 charges of Celestial Intersection, A. Benefic, Benefic 1 + 2, Exaltation, and HALF OF MY CARDS, to heal/mitigate with. And that's just single target.

I do not NEED a tank's help to heal ANYTHING. I don't even want it. In fact, I'd rather every tank and dps (excluding RDM) to be STRIPPED of all their healing so I MAYBE can be worth a damn.

[Supersnow845]

The thing is I’m actually fine with this if it wasn’t for the short CD’s. The long 2 minute CD’s should feel super powerful, like they are the tanks equivalents to our expedients and our neutral sects

It’s the fact that the short mitigations are so disgustingly overpowered buffing of the long CD’s feels bad because the short CD’s already delete healers from the game

Nerf HS HOC and BW and these changes are totally fine

[currentlemon]

The thing is I’m actually fine with this if it wasn’t for the short CD’s. The long 2 minute CD’s should feel super powerful, like they are the tanks equivalents to our expedients and our neutral sects

It’s the fact that the short mitigations are so disgustingly overpowered buffing of the long CD’s feels bad because the short CD’s already delete healers from the game

Nerf HS HOC and BW and these changes are totally fine

The most sensible thing is to increase the Cooldowns of the three abilities you mentioned. If they do that, it’d be a boon for healers.

[Katish]

I would still mind, very much so. I don't play healer to be a low complexity, low dps, dps job. Tanks already do that, but they also get the responsibility of positioning the mobs/boss, and pace their defenses. With most WAR and some PLD tanks in dungeons healer get nothing besides being a bad dps job, making healer dps slightly more complex doesn't fix the lack of purpose.

Sorry to say, if you aren't you are playing healers at this point like that...you are most certainly playing the job wrong. The healers don't even need to heal tanks or even the party for that matter unless something goes horribly and, I do mean horribly, wrong. Hold with the exception of maybe DK, but that too will change.

[MikoRemi]

I just find it funny that I called this in other threads but so many ‘assurances’ were made that WAR healing would be gutted…but as I’ve said, buffs over nerfs~.

I’m having a fun laugh now. Can’t wait for Dawntrail!

[Oizen]

I just find it funny that I called this in other threads but so many ‘assurances’ were made that WAR healing would be gutted…but as I’ve said, buffs over nerfs~.

I’m having a fun laugh now. Can’t wait for Dawntrail!

I don't think anyone expected anything to happen.

[MikoRemi]

I don't think anyone expected anything to happen.

Nahh you missed some silliness close to a year back but I was simply waiting for the time~.

Hopefully the others got fun stuff too though, haven’t checked too deeply really.

[Lyth]

It's hard to comment on healing without understanding how things scale. For example, a 400 potency tank healing effect in the level 91 dungeon accounts for about 8k healing, with max HP being at 118k. The question to ask is how that potency scales with level, and how that holds up against the max HP that you have at the time when you're geared up for the first raid tier. Scaling is why effects like Second Wind have become progressively less impactful with successive expansions.

You can tell that this is somewhat important because Rampart has new traited buff for incoming heals at level 94, and nearly every job in the game, DPS included, have received traited buffs to their heals at higher levels to prevent this from happening. You'll note that I said 'nearly every job,' because SE rarely issues direct nerfs.

I note that Bloodwhetting still applies per mob hit rather than per weaponskill used on the Media Tour build. That's still likely to be unbalanced (especially in the initial dungeons), but it will depend on how much tanks are affected by healing scaling changes as they level.