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    Everyone can pvp, or not. Doesn't effect me either way. What does bother is if if all the pvpers cry about Blm/Thm being overpowered cause of thunder/thundara. They'll ask for a nerf, and SE will probably do it. That's where I'll get mad if it effects me PvE.

    If not, then pvp knock yourselves out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viritess View Post
    I really don't mind Duels. I think their fine in the Arena myself and would likely prefer it that way.

    /duel with a cooldown is a must to me, and should be plenty long. If your gonna duel people who actually want to, theres no need for it to be spammable. But on top of this i would request a MUCH bigger blacklist, because if i start getting pestered because i declined i want plenty of room to ingore as many people as i want. No need for one in an arena.

    If you want to kill time on a Dungeon cooldown, i'd much rather have Triple Triad Travel version. But if thats what you want, have at it.

    There are some issues with 1v1 pvp that always arise however, and for everyone who is "pro" i do hope your prepared for:

    Why can't my X beat Y?
    X is overpowered, needs nerf!
    Skill Y doesn't do enough damage 1v1
    Nerf Stuns on X, they are OP in 1v1
    X shouldn't get Heavydebuff skills, they are ranged!
    Tanks are too hard to kill!

    Need i go on. Duel as much as you want. But if your unwilling to back SE when they say Tough Nuts to complaints like this, and your favorite class isn't top dog, then i'd rather flush the whole thing down the drain.

    Balancing for 1v1 PVP has ruined more classes and games then i care to remember, even when pvp and pve skills are seperate, because once you get into 10 v 10 or more battles alot of skills feels useless, because of 1v1 crying.

    Thats my OPINION on the matter. I don't begrudge anyone their fun duels, but keep the "Balancing" of PVP skills out of it, save that for the group vs group fights and let your duels be for the fun you claim its for ^^
    Meh, none of those complains are exclusive to duels,they're things that are said about any manner of gameplay 1v1, 10v10, and even pve. One interesting thing about this game is that, because its so easy to level and 1 character can be any class, I've found that people tend to care less about a singular class.

    That said, the whole point of a /duel is just a fun diversion. It would have no impact on any gameplay or design decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    Everyone can pvp, or not. Doesn't effect me either way. What does bother is if if all the pvpers cry about Blm/Thm being overpowered cause of thunder/thundara. They'll ask for a nerf, and SE will probably do it. That's where I'll get mad if it effects me PvE.

    If not, then pvp knock yourselves out.
    chances are, BLM's will be very powerful in all sorts of pvp. generally a class like that is a "glass cannon" lots of power, tons of potential, but unless it's supported, they go down quick.

    also, I can't see anything in pve being adjusted because of how any class performs in duels/pvp. adjustments would likely effect only pvp. I have confidence in this dev team they know the difference between a dynamic element (such as yourself) and a mob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicFox View Post
    PvP crowd are so vocal x.x Please no duel its just not worth it. Most of the people who are supporting PvP duel are trying to start fights with the people who don't want it.
    I think this is an unproductive assumption. Yes, there are trolls and people who exist only to grief in every game, but they are not reflective of the whole game community, and especially not reflective of everyone who likes to PvP. I just want to have fun with my friends. Duels are one way that my friends and I have fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    Everyone can pvp, or not. Doesn't effect me either way. What does bother is if if all the pvpers cry about Blm/Thm being overpowered cause of thunder/thundara. They'll ask for a nerf, and SE will probably do it. That's where I'll get mad if it effects me PvE.

    If not, then pvp knock yourselves out.
    Was already stated in the pdf's that pvp will have its own set of skills.

    Balance and release of crowd control system with firm control of status timers (e.g., sleep, paralysis, blind)
    after stabilization of battle algorithms.
    Two PvP venues, Coliseum and Frontlines, to be released after version 2.0. Unique zones to be created so
    as not to affect non-participating players. Release of PvP-specific abilities, gear, and ranking.]
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    Last edited by Firon; 07-21-2012 at 06:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    We asked the man himself and he let us know that the dev. team have indeed considered implementing dueling, but that it's currently not a high priority at the moment.
    Damn, dueling would have been an awesome way to settle which LS won claim over a world HNM (if FF14 swings that way with HNMs eventually)

    Fafnir pops!
    LS leaders locked into duel!
    LS leader 1 wins duel and wins claim!
    Wouldnt be able to bot a duel! well maybe
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    I'm not one for cluttering toggles in our menus, but this one I would be insistent on.

    Duels were ok to have in Aion, and were better when met with a feature in the configurations to auto-decline duels. When someone offers a duel to someone who's on Auto Decline, the message immediately returns "This Character is not Accepting Duel Requests." And the matter was settled. I wasn't even informed of the fact someone was attempting to duel me.

    This helps prevent braggarts from blindly inviting everyone and their mother to duels. If this feature is accompanies duels, I should have no problem with duels themselves.

    Just looking for a bit of abuse control here.
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    think they have commented on 2.0 coming with some spell and ability additions. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume some of this additions will be made with both pvp and pve situations in mind, such as adding silences and dispels. As for 1v1 balance i believe they will try their best to make it as fair as possible, but if your getting ready to launch a pvp engine based around arena style content (i.e. 5v5 3v3 2v2) and instance/zoned pvp (capture flag, take towers etc) they are probably gonna be more focused on group balancing than individual balancing. So will just have to wait and give constructive feedback, then see how SE goes about class balancing after that.
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    put me down as against open world duels

    arena ones are fine with me

    you can blist a person all you want, but doesn't mean that you cant hear what they say or not have them harrass you verbally in game about it. (No one has corrected me on this if I'm wrong tell me so please) People can be like that. I myself am not fond of pvp so I won't be doing it so why should I have to automatically set something to auto decline when I just want to play a game and have fun?
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    That is all.

    Seriously though, I am against open world. Arena please... where I can place bets on you.
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