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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    As a player that's been around a while, I will never understand the declarations of "we don't need more worlds."

    I started on Mateus, when there were frequent calls to simply close/merge it with another world (Balmung, usually) because it was so dead and empty. Now, it's population rivals the high pop worlds.
    I moved to Zalera when Crystal was broken off, looking for that low pop vibe again. Now, I can say from first hand experience, it's far more bustling than it was back then.
    I've been here through the creation of the new worlds (and data center) for EU. At the time, everyone declared this killed DF by spreading everyone out too much, worlds are dead, we don't need this much space, etc. After only a few years, it was clear they were full to bursting and needing more expansion.

    So, miss me with this whole "worlds are dead, why bother" rhetoric.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Now, it's population rivals the high pop worlds.
    Rivals? Mateus is the highest population world now more often than not according to the Lucky Bancho census and has been since the start of Endwalker.

    But as for your main point, you're correct. Worlds will start off small and gradually build up over time as more players join the game. Dynamis has a solid population now. The problem is that much of the level cap population got used to going to Aether or the other NA data centers early on so it's a habit for them now. They haven't seen the population increase like those who chose to play on Dynamis have. If they would all stay on Dynamis for a change, there would be little reason for anyone to head to Aether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Rivals? Mateus is the highest population world now more often than not according to the Lucky Bancho census and has been since the start of Endwalker.

    But as for your main point, you're correct. Worlds will start off small and gradually build up over time as more players join the game. Dynamis has a solid population now. The problem is that much of the level cap population got used to going to Aether or the other NA data centers early on so it's a habit for them now. They haven't seen the population increase like those who chose to play on Dynamis have. If they would all stay on Dynamis for a change, there would be little reason for anyone to head to Aether.
    People would rather go for convenience. That's really all there is to say about it. Cross-DC allowed people to flood one particular data center because it had the reputation for being the raid/content DC and it's too late to change it now without removing cross-DC. People might flood over to Dynamis during the early days of the expansion to escape wait times but once queues calm down they'll go right back to Aether or Crystal, the already established hubs. Square shot themselves in the foot by releasing Dyna with cross-DC, all it did was allow people to come and go as they please or stay away for weeks on end (like those who only went to Dynamis for an easy mansion but still do all of their content on other DCs).

    The original 4 worlds of Dynamis aren't even close to being full, considering houses there still run up into the thousands on 3/4 of the worlds. The next 4 will just be taken up by multi-owners/people who just want a house again and the cycle continues. Discords are already preparing for people to go buy up houses as soon as FCs are opened lol, with no intention of actually participating in the DC community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    People would rather go for convenience. That's really all there is to say about it.
    I agree that most people are more interested in personal convenience.

    But considering the ongoing complaints, is that convenience giving them what they're really looking for?

    A world doesn't have to be full to find other people to play with.
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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    As a player that's been around a while, I will never understand the declarations of "we don't need more worlds."

    I started on Mateus, when there were frequent calls to simply close/merge it with another world (Balmung, usually) because it was so dead and empty. Now, it's population rivals the high pop worlds.
    I moved to Zalera when Crystal was broken off, looking for that low pop vibe again. Now, I can say from first hand experience, it's far more bustling than it was back then.
    I've been here through the creation of the new worlds (and data center) for EU. At the time, everyone declared this killed DF by spreading everyone out too much, worlds are dead, we don't need this much space, etc. After only a few years, it was clear they were full to bursting and needing more expansion.

    So, miss me with this whole "worlds are dead, why bother" rhetoric.



    Crystal had the benefit of two already populated servers being merged into it though, and how it quickly became "the" place for RP of all kinds. Dynamis meanwhile was made to fend for its self (twice now with the new servers) and it's biggest claim to fame is "the place people went to for low player Fall Guy runs and less FATE competition for Yokai Watch" and soon it'll be the place that gets used as a load-bearing data center for the other three until the log-in queues on those servers die down.

    Dynamis whole identity is literally being used as a gutter for runoff from Aether/Primal/Crystal and once they don't need us for the short-term convenience, we'll go right back to being forgotten at best and mocked at worst. Even the influx of Xbox players mostly went straight to Aether/Primal/Crystal because they knew in advance that they were the most populated, and were the places you wanted to be for raiding, PVP, or RP so Dynamis doesn't even have a niche or angle it can sell its self on to bring people over (except maybe tourist trap, we're about to have a massive ghost town in the new housing districts, lol).
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