Benchmark 1.1 Feedback - Viera

**Fukuro** · 06-07-2024 08:30 PM

I'm overall happy and the new hairstyle looks sick on my WOL!
Though he doesn't look as pissed anymore, which im undecided on wether I prefer the older or new version. Also the nose has lost tons of bunny features. Hope it gets adressed.

Endwalker:

Dawntrail:

**Halivel** · 06-07-2024 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by SkellCross

Ngl I'm kinda shocked the other face 3 people are happy cause my boi losing his "rabbit nose" is a massive downgrade. Why even play a rabbit race if you don't want a rabbit feature :/

Like I get people hate the "darkened nose" but I'd take the dark shading if he gets his rabbit nose back :/ I'm not sure why others are pleased with this change.

From what I've seen the lack of shading on male Viera noses for faces 2-4 is a common complaint even for those who're happy with most changes otherwise (myself included. Give me my bunny nose. It's part of Viera identity)

**LuciaMirain** · 06-08-2024 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by Gwen_Lavellan

LuciaMirain : there it is

Rava
Face 3
Skin tone: row 1, line 13 (Rgb 154,115,101)
Haircut: the one on my forum icon
Hair colour: row 5 line 6
Hair highlights: row 2 line 8
Jaw 2
Eyes 3
Iris (Pupils?) : big
Eye colour: row 2, line 21
Eyebrows: 3
Nose 3
Mouth 1 (but if you can also show me with 3 as well, because lips are now bigger and I’m considering switching for 3)
Lip Color ; translucent, row 3 line 6
Ears 1 , length 60
Distinctive signs : both on the 1st line (eyebrows and jewel), second on the 2nd line (second eyeliner option)
No tats
Make up 3 on the first line
Opaque, row 6 line 10

Her look in game for comparison:

Thank you again <3

Here I think I got everything right! I hope this helps. I couldnt get the hair on your forumpic though.

last pic is with the other lips you requested.

**Gwen_Lavellan** · 06-08-2024 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by LuciaMirain

Here I think I got everything right! I hope this helps. I couldnt get the hair on your forumpic though.

last pic is with the other lips you requested.

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this!

Overall, that’s not that bad, except for the eyes when she smiles. I think I’ll keep the mouth 3 since it’s still relatively close to the one she has now.

For the shin colour, the new lighting renforce the grey and red subtones, so maybe I’ll switch back to her previous one.

Many many thanks again <3

**EBlaidd** · 06-09-2024 03:35 PM

All below feedback is in regards to Male Viera, Veena, Face 4
(Features selected: face 4, jaw 3, eye 3, eyebrow 1, nose 2, mouth 2)

I have prepared a breakdown of many subtle and less subtle changes that I notice have added up to create a face that is unrecognizable. Brightness on Endwalker screenshots has been increased in order to see details more clearly. Thank you in advance for your consideration.

Eye Shape:
The characteristic heavy/deep-set eyelid crease of the Endwalker graphics has been replaced with soft indistinct eyelid definition. The eyelid itself has a smoother upside down C-curve with a more upward slant in the outer half, whereas the previous graphics show an eyelid that slants upward in the inner third and then curves to slope slightly downward.

The black liner outline that defines the eye shape is hardly visible and smaller compared to Endwalker graphics. It also slopes downward at the outer corner in the Dawntrail Benchmark 1.1, where previously it winged out further and went straight out and slightly upward. This changes the eye appearance drastically.

The width of the eye socket appears to have narrowed due to changes to the shape of the black outline and the inner corner, as well as the thicker lower waterline.

These changes lead to an eye that appears less open and less defined in the Dawntrail Benchmark 1.1.

Eyebrows:
The eyebrows are thinner and less visible in Dawntrail Benchmark 1.1 compared to Endwalker graphics. (See Above)

Eyeliner Tattoo:
The eyeliner tattoo is hardly visible in the Dawntrail Benchmark 1.1. In Endwalker graphics, the tattoo has more opacity, lining the upper and lower lash lines and extending the outer corners. In Benchmark 1.1, it appears only faintly at the outer corners.

Endwalker Benchmark, shown in darkest black swatch
Dawntrail Benchmark 1.1, shown in darkest black swatch
Comparison, shown in red swatch with brightness and saturation up for visibility

TO BE CONTINUED IN PART 2 DUE TO CHARACTER LIMITS (1/2)

**EBlaidd** · 06-09-2024 03:36 PM

CONTINUED FROM PART 1 (2/2)

All below feedback is in regards to Male Viera, Veena, Face 4
(Features selected: face 4, jaw 3, eye 3, eyebrow 1, nose 2, mouth 2)

Lip Shape:
In Endwalker, the upper lip was larger than the lower lip and full to the corners, with a more angular shape. The lip seam contours served to emphasize the pouty fullness of the heavier upper lip. The lower lip was also full, but narrower. Overall, the upper lip was emphasized.

In Dawntrail Benchmark 1.1, the upper lip is smaller than the lower lip and the emphasis has shifted to the lower lip. The lips are rounded instead of angular, taper out gradually to the corners, and appear more like Face 3 lips.

The Endwalker lip shape is a prominent and beloved characteristic of Face 4, distinct from the unique lip shapes of the other male viera face types.

Jaw/Chin:
The jawline (Type 3) appeared wider and more angular in Endwalker graphics, and appears longer, narrower, and more rounded and v-shaped in Dawntrail Benchmark 1.1. This makes the face appear more heart-shaped and elongated compared to Endwalker’s Face 4.

In Endwalker graphics, the Face 4 chin is distinctly square and has sharp contours, which harmonizes with their other angular features. In the Dawntrail Benchmark 1.1, the chin is rounded which makes it appear softer and also longer.

There are indentations in the sides of the jawline in Dawntrail Benchmark 1.1 that appear to be an unintentional graphical error.

Nose:
The lighter bunny nose detail appears less prominent and is hard to see in Dawntrail Benchmark 1.1.

The facial features together as they are in Endwalker lend a classical beauty to male viera Face 4 that I hope can be returned with some changes. Whoever designed this face for Endwalker did so lovingly and with amazing talent, and I hope that their artistic vision and hard work can be preserved.

As someone who likes extremes and dramatic visuals, who chose Face 4 for it’s Michael-Angelo-esque details as well as it's striking, glam-rock eye makeup, I hope that these issues can be rectified. As you can probably tell, this face means way way too much to me. I am on my knees.

Thank you so much to the Devs for your time and consideration.

Quotes from a friend: "No more Roman statue?" "That's a completely different face." "It's not an 80s glam rock face anymore."

First DT benchmark post: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6442627

**Pocan** · 06-13-2024 02:58 AM

i agree! i like my bunny nose, i hope they can tune up again the details not just a smudge

**DemiBajamut** · 06-13-2024 03:23 AM

I like the changes made in the 1.1 version of the benchmark and am for the most part satisfied, however I have one issue left where I don't really like the change to the mouth. The lips seem to be a different shape, more flat, and overall seem wider. I also agree with the others and I hope the nose shading is changed to be more noticeable, if I wanted a regular human nose I'd just play another race.

**Cherrizini** · 07-05-2024 10:00 PM

I wanted to update this since Dawntrail officially released this week.

Where are our bunny noses? Like we got a new graphic update but they just got rid of them.

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