Thread: Benchmark 1.1 Feedback - Viera

Quoting own post so it is also in this Viera specific thread.

Originally Posted by Yencat

Veena face 3, mouth 1, eyebrows 2, eyes 4.

Overall, it's much improved from the first benchmark! The good;

The contours of the jaw are visible again, the dark halfmoon over the top half of the eyes is lessened so she doesn't look so ominous, the lips are glossier again, and the pupils are bigger again but the colour accuracy is still much better than the original Veena eyes.

The bad;

The line between the upper and lower lip is still missing its curve and is a straight line rather than a defined upper lip (this is an issue on almost everyone, it seems.), the already sparse Veena eyebrows are a little better, but still very smudgy and barely visible compared to currently.

The character isn't actually smiling in the before, but the shading in the corners of the mouth and the loss of shape in the circled area make the mouth look downturned, and it looks like she's posing for a mug shot instead of having a more serene, neutral expression.

I really don't know what to say about the eyebrows, but since there are complaints from other people that their character's eyebrows are suddenly too dark, I'd just like to once again suggest that you please let us color our eyebrows independently from the hair. I don't know how difficult this is to do from a technical perspective, but it would solve the issue of eyebrows being too light or too dark at the same time.

Originally Posted by Yencat

Quoting own post so it is also in this Viera specific thread.



The character isn't actually smiling in the before, but the shading in the corners of the mouth and the loss of shape in the circled area make the mouth look downturned, and it looks like she's posing for a mug shot instead of having a more serene, neutral expression.

I really don't know what to say about the eyebrows, but since there are complaints from other people that their character's eyebrows are suddenly too dark, I'd just like to once again suggest that you please let us color our eyebrows independently from the hair. I don't know how difficult this is to do from a technical perspective, but it would solve the issue of eyebrows being too light or too dark at the same time.

Yeah the eyebrows are another issue on their own. I swap between grey and the lightest pink, and my character looks eyebrowless on the benchmark. I find it funny and I don't mind the look, but I know it will bother a lot of people. It is prevalent in a lot of races so it will probably be fixed.

Originally Posted by Cherrizini

Yeah the eyebrows are another issue on their own. I swap between grey and the lightest pink, and my character looks eyebrowless on the benchmark. I find it funny and I don't mind the look, but I know it will bother a lot of people. It is prevalent in a lot of races so it will probably be fixed.

I hope so! But I do have some doubts considering it is already an issue in the game right now with certain hair and skin color combinations.

The mouths seem a little off on almost everyone, so unless it was a deliberate choice I have more hopes of them fixing that.

New benchmark still has issues with the darkened nose feature on viera male face 1.

Left image feature is on, right image is off.



Compared to how it looks ig now



With lighter skin tones it shows but the darker you go it disappears or turns reddish.

Originally Posted by Roda

This is the same problem happening with the lala tarutaru nose
I really hope they can fix this before launch.


And yeah, that bottom gif is toggling the feature off (matches skin tone) and on (pink blush).
It's like she has a drunk person's nose! D;

oh i was just about to come here to post about this, i made a whole thread for it during the last benchmark feedback period! https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ial-feature%29

I didn't even think about the fact that fem lalas would be affected, but that makes so much sense now that both nose facial features broke due to the new way textures are being processed.

putting some example images from my thread here to have it more in one place:
current EW look when toggling the nose



vs in the DT benchmarks



I play a dark skinned viera myself so losing the dark nose and instead having this well...... I do not want to call it poop nose, but i keep thinking that every time I see the bright brown on it. It saddens me a little bit, so I really hope that gets addressed at some point during DT!

It kind of ruins my bun boy. I'm going to submit a bug report with screenshots as evidence because it makes him look like he has allergies or something.

I'm really quite happy with how my main Viera has transferred over.

Endwalker:


Benchmark 1.1:



Her nose shading has changed a decent amount, but it's not anything I mind.

Her lip shape has changed, but compared to some other races/faces, it's pretty minor IMO. The upper lip has lost that "v" shape in the middle (where the upper/lower lips touch), and the bottom lip looks like she's had a bit of filler. I thought it looked slightly weird at some angles during the benchmark, but even that I feel may be a bit nitpicky. As a whole I think she survived the update pretty well!

My second Viera..

Endwalker:


Benchmark 1.1:


I really don't like the change in her lips on this one. The corners look downturned, she's also lost the shape to her upper lip (like my bun above), and the bottom lip also looks swollen. Makes for a not-great look to me. :X

For her nose, while I didn't mind the new shading on my main bun, I don't love it so much here. It seems to make her nose look more narrow at the tip vs. flaring a little.

Her jawline is also looking way more squared off, but I'm not sure if that's due to the shading, or the fact I forgot to put her in smallclothes for an even comparison, or what....but yeah. Not loving this for her.

Aside from her lips, I'm thinking the other items may not look quite so off to me once I get her in game. They seem to be more angle/lighting dependent (at least I'm hoping so).